Ann: Proposed issue of Securities - NOR, page-13

You are not wrong, some years ago, I went to an institutional investment conference where PO was one of the presenters, somehow, he stopped midway and answered his phone call from his son, so I dumped my lot at I think 9c at the time.

Is NOR a dog? Yes, it is.
Does NOR have a turnaround opportunity? Definitely, people have underestimated Spark's deal just because they don't trust PO in my opinion, also people here is not familiar with Spark like Telstra for example, but they are Telstra in NZ I think.

What's the contract value FRX gets from MasterCard? or what's the contract value ID8 had with MasterCard? how much they burn their money a quarter? and it had to go into a trading halt for 8 weeks just to remain peasant money, and what's their market cap now?

Is Avicena a once-off contract? No, definitely not.

So there are several opportunities for the "ultimate" dog to bark aloud imo.