Hmmm, that sounds like a better case scenario, I am looking at...

Hmmm, that sounds like a better case scenario, I am looking at the commodity chart and am seeing how low prices got during the covid crash, we are still a long way off that, basically though if it goes under 50k cny again, every Aussie mine is probably into care and maintenance. And we would probably see who stays a float and who goes bust.

And @Sparky68 looks like you were right about hydrogen, too expensive to do. If Twiggy can't do it, I think a lot of others will struggle. And these EVs alone are enough of a struggle.