Gordon you have obviously not read some of my previous posts on...

Gordon you have obviously not read some of my previous posts on this subject. I take full responsibility for my bad decisions with QIN. I also have a lot of respect and have learnt a lot from much of HT and Madam's posts on QIN. I just get annoyed at sweeping general statements saying things like "management lied" is an excuse for bad investing. That is victim blaming. If management of a company lies in a statement to the ASX then that is a crime, and anyone who acts off information on that statement, believing it to be true is a victim of that crime. Again... This is a general comment I am making, not relevant to QIN and the circumstances at QIN. As far as QIN is concerned, go for your life if you want to make assumptions about people's investment abilities, circumstances or trading strategies. Another assumption: "you were warned": you don't know if I was warned, when I was reading hot copper, or when I first invested in QIN so your "advice"to me is irrelevant.