Ann: Results of Meeting, page-6

He said "we were making 60mn..." so glean from that whether it's EBITDA or NPAT

for the most part he was trying to be as conservative as possible about the future and the 30mn figure didn't seem like he was hyping things up for me. If anything he would quell any suggestions I had of things picking up faster

he also made mention that the stock price at the moment is very wild as there's not many trades so when some happen the price fluctuates wildly and that they were making sure to go to different funds and to let them know that the company is back and open for business to create more demand for the stock.