if you are going to count all that which i will, then you have...

if you are going to count all that which i will, then you have to count that they said they will be cash flow positive IN the march quarter which at this point in time is actually more important than a nameplate title.
Once they are cashing in then hopefully Karara can fund themselves. There are plenty of companies out there producing our volume or thereabouts and making oodles of cash eg : MGX, i know MGX have no debt etc.. but they are a little desperate for ore reserves.