JV it's all rather odd because in any line of business even if you know nothing about it would say anyone and we mean anyone cannot do any worse and highly likely the investors and general market would get behind a new management team and we would get a short term bump up, would it last who knows but nothing could be worse than this bunch no trust no capability and no credibility and that's trying to post as positive as possible
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