Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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Sharenot so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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Sharere: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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Sharere: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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Sharelook who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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Sharere: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
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Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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ShareThere are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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Sharesandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.
The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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ShareVery direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.
A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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Sharerogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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ShareSo you can see both sides of the story matty.
I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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ShareAgree seuss.
I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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ShareI know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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- Release Date: 24/12/14 09:15
- Summary: WAV/RULE: MCK: MCK- Application for a waiver from Rule 9.2.1
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MCK 24/12/2014 09:15 WAV/RULE NOT PRICE SENSITIVE REL: 0915 HRS Millennium & Copthorne Hotels New Zealand Limited WAV/RULE: MCK: MCK- Application for a waiver from Rule 9.2.1 NZX Regulation Decision Millennium & Copthorne Hotels New Zealand Limited (MCK) Application for a waiver from - NZX Main Board Listing Rule 9.2.1 24 December 2014 Background Decision 1.On the condition set out in paragraph 2 below, NZX Regulation ("NZXR") grants Millennium & Copthorne Hotels New Zealand Limited ("MCK") a waiver from Rule 9.2.1 to allow MCK to enter into the Proposed Transaction without obtaining shareholder approval. 2.The waiver in paragraph 1 above is provided on the condition that the Directors of MCK certify to NZXR, in a form acceptable to NZXR, that: a.they are not interested, in terms of Rule 3.4.3, in the Proposed Transaction; b. MCK was not influenced in its decision to enter into the Proposed Transaction by Tai Tak; c. the terms and conditions of the Proposed Transaction have been negotiated, and entered into, on an arms' length and commercial basis; d. the terms of the Proposed Transaction are fair and reasonable to MCK and its shareholders; and e. entry into the Proposed Transaction by MCK is in the best interests of MCK and its shareholders who are not related to, or Associated Persons of, Tai Tak. 3. The information on which this decision is based is set out in Appendix One to this decision. This waiver will not apply if that information is not or ceases to be full and accurate in all material respects. 4. The Rules to which this decision relates are set out in Appendix Two to this decision. Reasons 5.In coming to the decision to provide the waiver set out in paragraph 1 above, NZXR has considered that: a.The policy behind Rule 9.2.1 is to ensure that undue influence is not exercised by a Related Party to reach a favorable outcome or transfer of value from the Issuer to the Related Party in respect of a transaction, and that shareholders are given an opportunity to review transactions where the Board may have been subject to actual or perceived influence from a Related Party. NZXR may waive the requirement to obtain approval of the Material Transaction if it is satisfied that the involvement of any Related Parties is unlikely to influence the promotion of, or the decision to enter into the transaction. As MCK is the purchaser under the Proposed Transaction, the decision to enter into the Proposed Transaction will be made by the board of MCK. Tai Tak does not have any representatives on the board of MCK nor does it have any ownership interest in MCK. It therefore would not have the ability to influence MCK in relation to its decision to enter into the Proposed Transaction or the terms and conditions MCK is willing to accept. Accordingly, the granting of the waiver will not offend the policy behind Rule 9.2.1. b. NZXR considers that it is unlikely that Tai Tak could have influenced MCK's decision to enter into the Proposed Transaction for the following reasons: i. the decision to enter into the Proposed Transaction will be made by the Board of MCK, of which its Directors have no direct or indirect interest in Tai Tak. ii.Tai Tak has no ownership interest in, or element of control over, MCK. c.Tai Tak is technically a Related Party of MCK under the operation of Rules 1.8.3 and 1.8.2 and 9.2.3(c). However NZXR does not consider that the connection between Tai Tak and MCK is the type of relationship that Rule 9.2.1 is aimed at regulating. Tai Tak is the minority shareholder in KIN Holdings and so there does not appear to be any ability for Tai Tak to exert influence over MCK's decisions in relation to KIN Holdings. d.NZXR is satisfied that there will be no transfer of value from MCK to Tai Tak as a result of the Proposed Transaction. The purchase price for the Proposed Transaction is to be determined by reference to the net asset value of KIN Holdings, less a discount to be agreed by the parties. The net asset value has been calculated based on an external valuation of KIN Holdings' key asset, and the book value of KIN Holdings' other assets. e. The certifications provided by the Directors of MCK provide comfort that the terms of Proposed Transaction are fair and reasonable to, and in the best interests of, MCK and the shareholders who are not Related Parties of Tai Tak. f.There is precedent for this decision. Appendix One 1. MCK is a Listed Issuer with its shares quoted on the NZX Main Board. 2. MCK owns 61.3% of the shares in KIN Holdings Limited ("KIN Holdings"). The remaining 38.7% of the shares in KIN Holdings are held by Tai Tak Holdings Pte Ltd ("Tai Tak"). 3. Tai Tak and MCK are parties to a shareholders' agreement relating to 100% of the shares in KIN Holdings. 4. A proposed transaction is currently being negotiated between Tai Tak and MCK that would allow MCK to acquire the remaining 38.7% shareholding in KIN Holdings from Tai Tak ("Proposed Transaction"). 5. MCK's Average Market Capitalisation is approximately $136 million. 6. It is intended that the purchase price for the Proposed Transaction will be based on the net asset value of KIN Holdings as at 31 July 2014, less a discount to be agreed to by the parties. The net asset value has been established based on the market value of KIN Holdings' key asset as determined by an external registered valuer, and the book value of KIN Holdings' other assets. 7. The purchase price is expected to be approximately $30 million, being approximately 22% of MCK's current Average Market Capitalisation. Accordingly the Proposed Transaction is likely to constitute a Material Transaction for the purposes of Rule 9.2.2. 8. Tai Tak is a Related Party of MCK pursuant to Rule 9.2.3(c) because: a. Tai Tak and MCK are parties to a shareholders' agreement and act jointly or in concert in relation to KIN Holdings; and b. Two Directors of Tai Tak or its related companies are Directors of certain subsidiaries of MCK, namely: i. Mr Calvin Han Leong Ho and Mr Han Khoon Ho are Directors of KIN Holdings; and ii.Mr Calvin Han Leong Ho is also a Director of Kingsgate Investments Pty Limited and Birkenhead Investments Pty Limited, wholly owned subsidiaries of KIN Holdings. Appendix Two Rule 1.8.2 provides: A person (the "first person") is associated with another person (the "second person") if, in making a decision or exercising a power affecting an Issuer, the first person could be influenced as a consequence of an Arrangement or relationship existing between, or involving, the first person and the second person. Rule 1.8.3 provides: Without limiting Rule 1.8.2, the first person is associated with the second person if: (a) the first person is a company, and the second person is: (i) Director of that company; or (ii) Related Company of that company; or (iii) Director of a Related Company of that company; or (b) the first person is a spouse, domestic companion, child or parent of the second person, or a nominee or trustee for any of them or for the second person; or (c) the first person is a Director of a company, or holds a Relevant Interest in Securities carrying more than 10% of the Votes of a company and the first person and the second person are parties to an Arrangement relating to the control of, or the control or ownership of Securities in, that company, which Arrangement affects Securities of that company carrying more than 30% of the total Votes attaching to Securities of that company; or (d) the first person and the second person are acting jointly or in concert; or (e) the first person and/or the second person propose to do, or are likely to do, anything which will cause them to become associated in terms of paragraphs (a) to (d) above or Rule 1.8.2 Rule 9.2.1 provides: An Issuer shall not enter into a Material Transaction if a Related Party is, or is likely to become: (a) a direct or indirect party to the Material Transaction, or to at least one of a related series of transactions of which the Material Transaction forms part; or (b) in the case of a guarantee or other transaction of the nature referred to in paragraph (d) of the definition of Material Transaction, a direct or indirect beneficiary of such guarantee or other transaction, unless that Material Transaction is approved by an Ordinary Resolution of the Issuer. Rule 9.2.2 provides: For the purposes of Rule 9.2.1, "Material Transaction" means a transaction or a related series of transactions whereby an Issuer: (a) purchases or otherwise acquires, gains, leases (as lessor or lessee) or sells or otherwise disposes of, assets having an Aggregate Net Value in excess of 10% of the Average Market Capitalisation of the Issuer; or (b) issues its own Securities or acquires its own Equity Securities having a market value in excess of 10% of the Average Market Capitalisation of that Issuer, save in the case of an issue pursuant to Rule 7.3.5 where only the market value of those Securities being issued to the Related Party or to any Employees of the Issuer are to be taken into account; or (c) borrows, lends, pays, or receives, money, or incurs an obligation, of an amount in excess of 10% of the Average Market Capitalisation of the Issuer; or (d) enters into any guarantee, indemnity, underwriting, or similar obligation, or gives any security, for or of obligations which could expose the Issuer to liability in excess of 10% of the Average Market Capitalisation of the Issuer; or (e) provides or obtains any services (including without limitation obtaining underwriting of Securities or services as an Employee) in respect of which the actual gross cost to the Issuer in any financial year (ignoring any returns or benefits in connection with such services) is likely to exceed an amount equal to 1% of the Average Market Capitalisation of the Issuer; or (f) amalgamates, except for amalgamations of a wholly owned Subsidiary with another wholly owned Subsidiary or with the Issuer: (g) For the purposes of Rule 9.2.2(a), "Aggregate Net Value" means the net value of those assets calculated as the greater of the net tangible asset backing value (from the most recently published financial statements) or market value. Rule 9.2.3 provides: For the purposes of Rule 9.2.1, "Related Party" means a person who is at the time of a Material Transaction, or was at any time within six months before a Material Transaction: (a) a Director or executive officer of the Issuer or any of its Subsidiaries; or (b) the holder of a Relevant Interest in 10% or more of a Class of Equity Securities of the Issuer carrying Votes; or (c) an Associated Person of the Issuer or any of the persons referred to in (a) or (b), other than a person who becomes an Associated Person as a consequence of the Material Transaction itself (or an intention or proposal to enter into the Material Transaction itself); or (d) a person in respect of whom there are arrangements other than the Material Transaction itself, intended to result in that person becoming a person described in (a), (b), or (c), or of whom the attainment of such a status may reasonably be expected, other than as a consequence of the Material Transaction itself; but a person is not a Related Party of an Issuer if: (e) the only reason why that person would otherwise be a Related Party of the Issuer is that a Director or executive officer of the Issuer is also a Director of that person, so long as: (i) not more than one third of the Directors of the Issuer are also Directors of that person; and (ii) no Director or executive officer of the Issuer has a material direct or indirect economic interest in that person, other than by reason of receipt of reasonable Directors' fees or executive remuneration; or (f) that person is a Subsidiary of, incorporated joint venture of, or unincorporated joint venture participant with, the Issuer and: (i) no Related Party of the Issuer has or intends to obtain a material direct or indirect economic interest in that Subsidiary, incorporated joint venture, or unincorporated joint venture participant, other than by reason of receipt of reasonable Director's fees or executive remuneration; and (ii) the Issuer is entitled to participate, directly or indirectly, in at least one half of the income or profits, and the assets, of that Subsidiary, incorporated joint venture, or unincorporated joint venture participant. 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ShareWe'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!
We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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ShareI am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)
I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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ShareI find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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ShareShadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Sharere: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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ShareMaybe this sheds some light on it ............................
He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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ShareI get your drift joewolf.
The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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ShareAt this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.
CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Sharere: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!
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ShareWhat a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!
Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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