I agree with you completely on that. And I guarantee you if you...

I agree with you completely on that. And I guarantee you if you asked some of the other "longtermers" as you put it (lol old fogies I hear in my head there) they would gladly say I can be one of the most skeptical and pessimistic people out there, and I have torn apart things in a lot of stocks, especially Xped.

Only today pulling apart every good thing @downunderboy had to say about xped in a convo we were having just to point out that one elusive thing every single trader forgets when their heart starts to lead the head.

An egg is still an egg, until its a chicken

So yeah, I welcome different views and ideas, and I think some of the arguments here either way got a bit off track. But you might just catch something I miss so bring it on I say. But be open the other way too.

Then we all win