C89, I suspect pavors is a day trader where the SP lives or dies by big bang announcements about prospects that are far into the future with no likelihood of any immediate revenue. Some of those companies will become immensely profitable, but most will not.
Resonance is a different kettle of fish. It is already turning over into profitability and (IMO) will do so on a reasonably quick basis but not necessarily at the rate that the day traders would like.
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