Another shout of praise goes up to Jehovah!

Originally posted by ppm56 ↑

Thanks for your heads up, but the fact remains that The Catholic Church has not changed the Ten Commandments. The fundamental moral precepts given by God to Moses remain unchanged.

The Ten Commandments are found in the book of Exodus (Ex 20:1-17) and the book of Deuteronomy (Deut 5:6-21). These commandments are considered foundational in both the Jewish and Christian traditions. Ten Commandments as given by God. They emphasize the moral teachings contained in the commandments as essential for guiding human behavior, which are still held today and societies are built on them, and have been for generations, the CC always taught these and changed cultures to these principles

The Magisterium of the Catholic Church consistently teaches that the moral principles outlined in the Ten Commandments are universal, timeless, and unchangeable. The Church's duty is to interpret and apply these commandments in the context of the contemporary world while preserving their essence.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS SIMPLE TD, you can keep harping on all you want, The Catholic Church has not changed the Ten Commandments themselves, which are based on the biblical texts found in the books of Exodus and Deuteronomy. However, the Church has its own catechetical interpretation and numbering system for the commandments, which may differ from those used in other Christian denominations and traditions.

For instance, the Catholic Church combines the prohibition against having other gods (the first commandment) with the prohibition against graven images (the second commandment) into one commandment. Additionally, the commandment regarding coveting is divided into two separate commandments in Catholic teaching, addressing the desire for a neighbor's wife and the desire for a neighbor's goods.

So, while the fundamental moral teachings remain consistent, the way they are presented and numbered may vary based on tradition.

FURTHER MORE< this is what happens when one doesn't know history as you don't or from wherever you got your list from as"

Historical Context: The Ten Commandments are derived from the Hebrew Bible (specifically Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5). Different Jewish and Christian traditions have interpreted and numbered the commandments differently since ancient times.

Jewish Tradition: In Judaism, the Ten Commandments (known as the "Aseret HaDibrot") are numbered differently than in most Christian interpretations. For example, the Jewish tradition generally counts the first commandment as "I am the Lord your God," while the prohibition against idolatry is not considered a separate commandment.

Reformed and Protestant Traditions: Many Protestant denominations, particularly those arising from the Reformation, follow a different numbering system. For example, the Lutheran tradition often splits the coveting commandment into two, similar to Catholicism, whereas many Reformed traditions (like those of the Reformed Church and Presbyterian Church) typically keep the commandments divided, reflecting their interpretation of Scripture.

SO please spare us all on here of how you follow the correct numbering system while others don't
The CC been there from day one and has been involved historically from the very foundation, knows all the ins and out of the bible, and its numbering Commandments system. The bible didn't drop from the sky

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@ppm56 — I’m genuinely starting to wonder if you’re even hearing what I’ve repeatedly said. It’s like you either don’t understand plain English, or your pride is so deeply rooted that it’s blocking your ability to actually process what’s being said.

You keep making the same baseless accusations, yet time and again I’ve proven them false. You show little to no understanding of who I am or what I believe. Frankly, I’m starting to think the reason you constantly copy and paste from RCC sources is because you don’t actually have a solid understanding yourself — and that’s why you avoid addressing Scripture directly. It’s almost like you can’t.

You continue slandering my name, falsely accusing me, even after I’ve shown you clearly how wrong you are. And still, you won’t stop. That alone says a lot about your spirit and your inability to take correction.

I stand by the Word of YHWH — always. And I will continue to correct and rebuke the distortions you promote, because it is voices like yours that twist Scripture to uphold man-made systems. No wonder you get on so well with atheists — your conversations are filled with gossip and slander, not the truth of Yeshua.

Have you even tried to share the Gospel with Doug, or call him to repentance? No — you just feed his unbelief and engage in mockery alongside him. That should tell you something. Are you not even the slightest bit concerned that you seem to connect more with atheists than with true Bible-believing followers of Yeshua?

That speaks volumes. I suggest you reflect on that.

@ppm56 — You can continue trying to polish the surface of the RCC’s practices, but the facts remain unchanged. You keep claiming the Church didn’t alter the Ten Commandments, yet the proof is in black and white — and anyone who picks up a KJV and compares Exodus 20 with your Catechism can see the truth for themselves.
Let’s break this down:

1. The Second Commandment (on idols) is missing in your Catechism.
The KJV clearly states:
“Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image… thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them…” (Exodus 20:4-5, KJV)

This isn’t a minor phrase. It’s a whole commandment with explicit warnings. The RCC removes this and merges it with the first, effectively hiding the direct command against idol worship — likely because Catholic tradition includes bowing to statues and images. That is not a “numbering difference.” That is a deliberate omission.

2. The Sabbath Commandment is severely shortened.
KJV:
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy… the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God… in it thou shalt not do any work…” (Exodus 20:8-11)
The RCC version cuts this down to a vague “Keep holy the Lord’s Day” — and then shifts it to Sunday, which YHWH never commanded. Again, no matter the “tradition” or “catechetical interpretation,” it contradicts Scripture.

3. The Tenth Commandment is split in two.
The RCC divides the command not to covet into two separate commandments to preserve the number ten — after deleting the second. This is not a biblical division. The original lists coveting in a single breath. Changing the structure to suit your needs is not preserving the Word of YHWH — it’s manipulating it.
So, yes — the RCC altered the presentation and essence of the Ten Commandments. That’s not just a difference in “numbering systems.” That’s a doctrinal distortion. Scripture is clear:
“Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” (Proverbs 30:6)
“For I testify unto every man… If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues…” (Revelation 22:18)
Also, don’t deflect by blaming “Millerites,” “SDA,” or “Protestants.” I’ve told you countless times ( are you this lacking intellectually?)— I stand on Yeshua and the Scriptures. If anything aligns with the Bible, I support it. If it contradicts it — even if it’s from the RCC — I reject it.

You said the RCC has been there “from day one.” That’s not historically or biblically accurate. Rome martyred the apostles — it didn’t join them. Pagan Rome became “Christian Rome” by name, but the practices and compromises remained — from sun worship (Sunday) to statues, incense, and hierarchical control.

Yeshua never said to follow tradition above the Word. In fact, He rebuked such thinking:
“For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men…” (Mark 7:8)

Please, @ppm56, stop defending what is not defendable. You are not defending Yeshua — you are defending Rome. That’s the truth. And until you’re willing to test your doctrines fully by the Word, without excuses or distractions, you’ll remain trapped in man-made systems.

But I’ll keep praying that YHWH opens your eyes — because I genuinely believe that deep down, you care. But caring is not enough — it must be rooted in truth.