are 20% of Americans ready for Civil War?

Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

I could be very wrong (and it's early days yet) ------ but, atm I see a clear risk of conflict INSIDE the republicans

Trump is Trump - but, Vance - he's in with some very powerful republican groups and they think very differently to Trump

If Trump won't agree to some or many of their ideas and desires - what might happen?

Trump is evidenced of calling for revolt. Vance heads groups that are clearly anti democratic and orientated to taking over - things like the civil service.

Both are of the same philosophy of replacement of people in powerful positions --

so we have Trump and 'all Trumpers' - and we have Vance and his associates and supporters who have different ideas --------- both having 'take over ideas'

that's a cake mix for 'what could possibly go wrong'

If it came to difference - which side would which authorities be on? Trump - or Vance?

Can Trump have the power to control Vance? Can Vance have the influence to control Trump? Would Vance use his 'influence' and turn it into a tool as an attempt at 'power' to control Trump --------- wow, that would be a shitfight in the chookhouse.

Of all the dynamics going on atm - of Trump becoming POTUS, of Trump as POTUS having a very different set of powers via the Supreme Court ruling, of Trump being now seasoned, not a newbie,
Of the huge problems in the Democrats with Biden and if or when or who for replacement -

out of all of it ----- atm, I think the biggest potential for major conflict now - is internal in GOP -- Trump 'seems' to have GOP by the short and curlies -

but ------- does he?

It's clear that Trump has used GOP for his own political and personal gains -

but, it might also be true that powerful forces in GOP - might be using Trump for their political and personal gains and consider Trump as a disposable item --

If their separate desires don't mix well ---------- it could be very very messy.

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Yes, I see Vance as much more dangerous than Trump. Trump is a lucky idiot, but Vance strikes me as Machiavellian smart; way too smart for Trump.
I noted at the start of Vance's speech he joked that Trump has made his pick (for vice president) and now he (Trump) was stuck with him. That in itself tells me that he has his own agenda and Trump can't do jack about it now.