Just an opinion chaps.as I have stated the management are doing heaps talking with banks and so forth.I got sick of reading the abuse towards management from new investors who have little idea how hard Althe Arrium team have worked.But at the end of the day the market speaks, and clearly there have been a lot of money lost here from new investors that talk hyper nonsence to suck other new investors in to buy.The market forces are talking...this is a very sad event for all I including myself,however somtimes balance is needed to save some from their own greed.My sorry experience comes from MBN and Kagara cheers