I hear you loud and clear.... my sentiment exactly that these...

I hear you loud and clear.... my sentiment exactly that these events (big or small) need to be put out there for further discussion. Otherwise what the hell is the point of having this forum if everyone only wants to hear feel-good warm and fuzzy talk and fantasise about fast cars, big boats, champagne and caviar.... Of course we all want that but we first need to get to that point. Blowing wind up the proverbial, remaining silent or being arrogant doesn't help the cause.

Civilised discussions, healthy debate, relevant views and opinions are all we are after.