Atheist Learns How Math DESTROYS Materialism (Under 12 Minutes!)

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There's this whole mathematical

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apparatus that pre-exists the universe,

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the physical universe. And the physical

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universe is explained as a consequence

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of the mathematics that pre-exists the

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universe. Now, the people the the guys

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at the forefront of this, not the

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popularizers, but people like Valin have

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said, "Wait a minute. Doesn't that imply

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then aren't we then saying maybe we

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don't want to be saying this? Maybe

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inadvertently we're saying this, but

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doesn't that imply that there's a mind

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behind the universe?"