Hi MM
But first we have to create a vehicle to promote non political discussions without the rhetoric
As to Liberals and Labor labels IMHO they are just labels and the groups just play lip service to the labels, as basically they all operate by business methods to suit their sponsors
IMHO there is no difference between the two main parties, their only difference is in who their controllers are
There is a rule in business in that you fix the root problems first then go up the tree.
What has been happening is the Nero system, fiddle around the edges while Rome burns, the ABC is one of those unimportant annoyances to be left until the main problems are fixed
Because after you fix root causes many of the other smaller problems fix themselves as a result
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