babcock future...macquarie group fate, page-5

I think most of these companies like CNP, AFG, MFS, BNB, MQG, AIO , VPG.......list goes on and on....is that not all their debt is on balance sheet

I know many analysts say MQG is the strongest of the ones in the group however I just think MQG has been loading on more debt whenver they repackage their debt

I agree that MQG is stil overpriced but with dodgy accounting practices its impossible for the small timers like us to really know the true extent of a company...hence are usually the suckers left holding

ASIC, ASX....what do they do. When was the last time these guys done anything to protect minority shreholders