It's not pointless at all, it's an absolute necessity. We agree...

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    It's not pointless at all, it's an absolute necessity.

    We agree on the big stuff, God, Creation, the Divine inspiration behind the Bible, the Station of Jesus as a Manifestation of God and so much more. It's required of every believer to test their belief, all truth or claims of truth must be tested and we will also be tested by our beliefs just as gold is purified by fire.

    I accept the Bible as truth, I read it regularly and find it profoundly beautiful I own and read the works of Meister Eckhart which I also find to be extraordinary, so let's start there.

    The prophecies of Revelation have been fulfilled, but that is for another day. The Third Temple is the figure who will return Christ like. The antichrist is a general malaise, a moving away from the Teachings and precepts as taught by Christ. To be un-Christlike, be it the individual and or the society. Is there any doubt that the antichrist is running rampant?

    People will reenact what they believe to be prophecy over and over again. There is the reality of prophecy that is the narrow path and then there is the product of every succeeding generation that sees prophecy coming to fruition in their own time. This is almost an ego trip.

    I'm not sure why you find it so incomprehensible that somebody should believe the basic fundamentals of your belief but not accept the Bible as primarily literal. The Bible is a spiritual work written in a spiritual language. Scientists have their shtick, doctors have their shtick, novelists have their shtick and scripture has its own style. I mean the world has been ordinary for the last 2000 years, why then was there some grand anomaly taking place in the world that can only be found in the Bible by literal Bible believers, such as the Flood, people living for hundreds of years, snakes talking, all of humanity descending from a Jewish family of dating from 4,300 years ago. Are you not in the least challenged by such literal beliefs? The Bible does not ask you to suspend your disbelief as some act of faith. That's not faith, that's compliance to the orthodoxy.

    Thank you for trying to show me the truth, truely from the bottom of my heart I feel the goodness in you and that is why I take more time responding to you than anybody else.

    The demon within is the unrefined self. It is the ignoble self. It is the base self. A drunken, womanising thief having met Jesus may have cast all those negative aspects from his being forever and is this not casting out demons? True exorcism is to be freed of superstition and dogma, to be free of the notion that a demonic force exists that might take control over the self.

    The demons and Jesus casting them into swine is a moral tale, not a literal tale. It was used in a story by Homer as evil men were turned into swine and in Plato there is reference of unclean souls becoming swine and monkeys. Swine were considered foul animals so the power of Christ to cleanse and educate a human spirit by casting the spiritual sickness into swine shows that the behaviour and state of these men was worthy only for pigs and Jesus removed this sickness of spirit and it was done away with as if pigs had drowned themselves.

    Satan does not exist, if he does then this reflects on God and I will not go there.

    Armageddon has passed.

    The Bible is predominantly a symbolic work, it is written in spiritual prose.

    Yes sin is rebellion against God's law, but that still comes back to ignorance of God's law. Sin is darkness in want of light. Sin is the void and the corruption that void causes in want of being freed of ignorance. Sin, evil is not a force in and of itself, it is an absence of goodness as darkness is the of light.

    The antichrist is a state of moral decay. It is identified as a single being in some cases just as sin is focused on a singular being in satan.
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    Every aspect of the Bible is subject to human reasoning be it read as literal or other. If literal was some kind of failsafe then Christianity would not have suffered a total disintegration into tens-of-thousands of sects, cults, churches, nor would it suffer the utter abomination of TV evangelises.
 
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