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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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PART 1
As promised, here's an updated BCC valuation thread. I don't normally share my detailed notes but I think BCC is somewhat misunderstood, there remains no broker coverage and we seem to have a good collection of people in this forum who constructively contribute such as @StealthInvest @Veecat and many others. Also, from a financial modelling perspective, BCC is extremely complex due to the JV, which for me makes it interesting.
Most importantly though, I think BCC is undervalued and represents a compelling investment opportunity (IMO).
For new holders that want to do a bit of catch up take a look at the original thread here: https://hotcopper.com.au/posts/49560501/single
In the meantime I will have to break this up into a few posts otherwise it will get too long.
Investment thesis
1. Low market cap
Often the big returns are made from a low base. Beam has a strong balance sheet, is profitable and cashflow positive, yet it has a market cap of just $16.9m and an EV of $13.9 - no that is not a typo. That EV is equivalent to an explorer that hasn't even started digging and yet we've got a profitable, high growth, tech-type business with a similar valuation. This presents multi-bag potential - keep reading for why
2. Established business with market leading productsBeam has been operating for over 25 years and has established partnerships with 3 of the largest satellite providers globally in addition to other highly reputable businesses. It operates in the satellite communications services industry but specialises in devices. This is a niche industry that has high barriers to entry as you need access to satellite providers who provide the airtime that make the devices function.
Beam has a diversified product range but the two biggest value drivers are Zoleo and devices for Iridium.
Zoleo has won so many industry awards I've lost count - please check ASX announcements for a full list. Effectively it's a Garmin killer and competes favourably against Garmin's InReach mini (more details further below)
Iridium ($6bn market cap) is a telco that provides satellite communication and devices for consumers, governments and businesses. Beam makes some of Iridium's most popular devices such as the Iridium Go (sold almost 60,000 units since 2014). Unlike iPhones etc, satellite phones and devices last a very long time and have very long product cycles. They are more functional than fashionable but that provides benefits for manufacturers of these devices. Iridium has recently invested $5bn in their new network, which will spur demand for new devices, which will help drive Beam's high margin device sales.
3. Beam (Zoleo) is a challenger in a growing market
Zoleo's closest competitor is Garmin (market cap $34bn, PE ~28x), which has an established brand and market. Comparatively, Beam barely registers a market share but has a Garmin killer that specification and award wise, wins hands down. It's also priced cheaper. This represents the perfect recipe to win market share (or be taken over). @StealthInvest is all over the product and keeps everyone updated as things move quickly
4. Beam/Zoleo is growing, executing and moving into new markets quickly
Example 1:Growing its retail presence. Beam has a number of SatPhone shops but the primary sales channel is online and other retail shops such as Australia Post and Anaconda. The retail presence of Zoleo is growing extremely rapidly which means more of an opportunity to sell devices. This will continue in FY22 and beyond as more retailers are signed up.
Example 2:Expanding into new countries. For anyone that has done any research, Zoleo is a JV with gross profits split by specific territories. Beam's territories include Australia, New Zealand and Asia. Roadpost's territory is North America and the Rest of World (ROW) is split 50/50.
Beam expanded into NZ in August 2021 and will announce some retailers shortly. ASX announcement 6th August belowBeam will then expand into the UK and selected European markets in early 2022 and later that year 1-2 Asian markets. China? This will grow the Total Addressable Market available to Beam
Example 3:Expanding into new verticals. Zoleo's first market has been the consumer market but Beam is actively going after the Government and Enterprise market too, which is large and lucrative. In early August it made a big hire to drive growth in this market.
5. The satellite Personal Communications Device market is expected to expand by 29% per annum through to 2025
This is an exceptional growth rate for any industry and with Beam expanding into new markets and verticals, it puts the Group in a strong position to capture some of that growth.
Effectively we have a fast growing business in a fast growing market.
6. There are multiple levers to improve value added services to boost ARPU
Like a typical telco, valuation is a function of subscriber growth and Average Revenue Per User (ARPU).
The holy grail is subscriber growth AND ARPU growth.
Beam with its Zoleo product is just scratching the surface with subscriber growth, but ARPU growth remains possible too.
There are 3 plans for Zoleo ranging from a low touch one to an all you can eat one.
Right now ARPU is $45 or $40.50 if you exclude GST but it is growing. One reason why it is growing is that messages on the network are increasing rapidly. Given ARPU is low, it implies most plans are Basic or In Touch.
BUT, those plans only include access. The message cost is higher. In Australia, it ranges from 65c to 50c. This will help to boost ARPU in addition to a host of other value added services Beam is working on. For my modelling, in another post, I model a static ARPU to be conservative. An increase in ARPU MATERIALLY impacts the valuation.
7. Finally, Beam is a misunderstood stock.
One of the reasons I share my research on Beam is that I believe it is a misunderstood and complex investment. I have a little bit of experience in this area and even I've been confused at times, which hasn't been helped by poor disclosure (note: this is improving).
In my experience, one way to making outsized returns is to find misunderstood or under the radar stocks as they lack a following and often have a discounted valuation. It often requires lots of patience but if you get it right and the company delivers, new investors arrive as re-rates occur. If it continues to grow it might get some broker coverage and if it passes, say $100m in market cap, instos will come on board, who will really bid up the price (note: It's a reasonably tight register with the top 20 owning 60% of the company)
For now, while it is profitable, the financial results do not reflect the positive talk and what a few of us see. The reason for that is that Beam have been selling devices to the JV for which Beam earn a small margin. However, the JV then need to sell those devices to consumers. There is a lag between device sales and subscribers. Then there is another lag as airtime revenue is billed monthly, so it starts off small but as subscribers grow and churn stays low (note: churn is 1.5%), this compounds quickly. I'll explain and show this in more detail later...
So that's why I'm invested here and if you're new, why you should dig a bit deeper.
I hope you've enjoyed the read. In the next post, I'll share some numbers and what that means from a valuation perspective. GLTAH -
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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