Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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With recent share price weakness I thought I'd revisit this thread to see what's (potentially) changed, if the thesis still holds and to update some of the numbers with latest available information.
But before I get to any numbers or valuation, let's review the thesis, as that is the most important. Full details can be found in the link below, which is the first post in this thread but I'll paraphrase here too to make life a bit easier.
https://hotcopper.com.au/posts/55837280/single
Every investment requires a reason. It may be you like management, you want exposure to an industry/commodity, it's cheap, it has a strong track record etc etc. No matter what the reason is, there's a reason. It can be right, wrong, silly or random but I don't know anyway that just randomly picks a code and buys a parcel.
My reasons were detailed in the first post. Any good investor should continually check to see if things change and make appropriate decisions accordingly. Has the thesis changed? If yes, how? If no, and if the SP has not met expectations it either means you're wrong or early. Am I wrong or early - I guess we'll find out over the next 12-18 months.
For me, my investment in BCC was based on the following (in no order):
1. Low market cap
My specialisation is micro and small caps. I love the space as it provides the biggest leverage to outsized returns and is often correlated to how much effort you put in (research wise). There will be many mistakes along the way as this area is very risky but if you're successful, your winners should easily outpace your losers, particularly if you're disciplined in selling bad calls.
Back in Sep 2021 when I made the above post, BCC had an EV of $13.9m and a share price of 22.5c. Today, the EV is $18m and the share price is 26.5c noting there has been 1 CR in between. It hasn't been flat during that time. It went past 60c back in December and has basically struggled after the CR with recent weakness likely tax loss selling from some CR participants.
But from a thesis perspective, the material upside hasn't changed. In fact, the business is significantly de-risked and more mature, so new investors have the opportunity to buy in at a very low price for something on the cusp of some material inflection and operational leverage.
BOTTOM LINE:Even though the MC, EV and SP are slightly higher than back in Sep, the business is significantly more advanced and de-risked. I think that with this lower risk, the thesis is actually MORE FAVOURABLE than back in Sep 2021.
2. Established business with market leading products
Beam is a diversified business with a rich history in satellite communication devices. It's not a one-trick pony with Zoleo, but it also benefits from Certus devices and has a retail presence, so it can manage the customer experience.
BOTTOM LINE: Since Sep, Beam has invested back in the business and expanded its geographic presence. Basically, as a total business, it's in a lot better shape. Tick
3. Beam (Zoleo) is a challenger in a growing market
Zoleo remains a key challenger to Garmin. Importantly, from a review, quality and price perspective, it's positioned perfectly. The recent investment in stock and components was in part made to protect the retail price - which is lower than Garmin and where it needs to be to win market share.
BOTTON LINE: No meaningful change. Zoleo remains a key a growing challenger. Both seem to be doing very well in the market.
4. Beam/Zoleo is growing, executing and moving into new markets quickly
The domestic retail presence continues to improve but the big thing that has changed since Sep was the recent announcement stating that it has officially expanded into the UK, Norway, Finland and Denmark. Market expansion into mature, developed economies that have a market for Personal Consumer Devices makes a lot of sense.
BOTTOM LINE: We knew market expansion was happened and now it has happened. The investment has been made, so the gains are ahead of us. While I don't see it as a huge immediate earnings contributor, it does build a better, bigger business over the long term. We also have the local Enterprise market which is significant. We made a big hire from Telstra and these sales cycles are a lot longer, so we're about due a big announcement in this space. Once you get these names, it creates a network effect and these clients are super sticky.
5. The satellite Personal Communications Device market is expected to expand by 29% per annum through to 2025
Ideally from an investment in any market, you want to be in a growing market. Even better, you want your investment to be increasing their market share in that growing market. The market that Beam participates in continues to grow and that is being confirmed in earnings calls from satellite provider Iridium.
BOTTOM LINE: Iridium continues to SPECIFICALLY mention Zoleo in earnings calls. For a US$5bn company to mention a small Australian company with a sub $20m EV is a very big deal. Since Sep, Iridium continues to benefit from market tailwinds, which further supports Beam.
6. There are multiple levers to improve value added services to boost ARPU
This is a big one. In a perfect world, you want subscriber growth AND ARPU growth. Beam hasn't recently stated what ARPU is largely because it has fallen. The reason it has fallen was Zoleo owners paused or their subscription during covid, paying a nominal fee vs the entry level plan of $32.
But we're out of covid and things are starting to go back to normal. The levers that were there are still there. The only difference is the local macro conditions have improved from a short rough patch that impacted key NSW and VIC markets, to much better conditions now. Messages and location sharing are the tip of the iceberg. As we get more subscribers, there becomes an exponential benefit from the use of these high margin services. It's one of the key reasons why they raised money - to bring forward the benefit and grow even faster.
BOTTOM LINE: We're now officially out of covid, so my expectations that ARPU trends will start to rise again should be a base-case view. We have immediate value added services now available, while Beam is investing in API/SDKs for 3rd party integration, which could really accelerate growth, adoption and use - these are yet to be released and could be available with the Zoleo 2 (whenever that is).
7. Finally, Beam is a misunderstood stock.
This is a big one and a source of frustration with many of my fellow investors. Liquidity in the stock is low, there's no broker coverage, the JV is opaque and difficult to understand and there is no insto ownership. I'm glass half full on this. I still see this as an opportunity as when these things kick in the impact will be significant. I see how hard Michael and Brendon work to get the company out there but the reality is, it's not easy, and we remain a very small company with low resources. I'm not making excuses as I think paid broker research is low hanging fruit, but the upside will come when this becomes popular and/or earnings start to really inflect.
BOTTOM LINE: Nothing has really changed since last Sep. I know PAC are engaging with Beam, but whether that results in broker coverage I'm not sure. Outside of Peak, there is no real insto ownership and the JV remains as complex as ever. If/when we crack this nut, that could be the catalyst to more new investors, which is something we all want.
BOTTOM, BOTTOM LINE: So when I reflect on the reasons why I invested, broadly, things are better or more advanced, the business remains well capitalised and the risk profile has reduced - but the SP has only gone up incrementally.
Consequently, it's probably an even better investment now but I'll let Mr Market determine if I'm right or wrong. I always said that I was looking towards at least the end of FY23 so there remains a bit of time between now and then. If the SP shows a bit more weakness I might use it as an opportunity to top up. GLTAH
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