@zbusc – You continue to repeat the same line of reasoning while dismissing Scripture that clearly refutes your stance. Let’s be real: your argument boils down to this—“I believe Paul teaches salvation cannot be lost, therefore I reject any Scripture that says otherwise.” That’s not how biblical discernment works. You don’t get to override the Word of YHWH with selective theology that comforts sin and dismisses obedience.
You said I align with the RCC? That’s false.
Let’s correct your misunderstanding:
The Roman Catholic Church teaches justification by works and sacraments.
I do not.
I teach what Paul, Yeshua, and the rest of Scripture clearly affirm: genuine faith will always be followed by obedience and repentance. Otherwise, it's a dead faith (James 2:17).
Clear Scripture You’re Ignoring
Here are Paul's own words, not twisted by interpretation, but quoted plainly: Romans 11:22 (KJV) "Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."
Paul is warning believers here. He says you will be cut off if you don’t continue in obedience.
Galatians 5:4 (KJV) "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."
Falling from grace is falling from salvation, not just some minor hindrance of “God not operating in your life.” That is your interpretation, not Paul’s.
1 Corinthians 9:27 (KJV) "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway."
Paul is warning even he could be disqualified if he doesn’t remain obedient.
Hebrews 10:26–27 (KJV) "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation..."
That's not talking to unbelievers. That’s directed at those who knew the truth and returned to willful sin.
⚠️ Stop Dismissing Yeshua’s Words
You said we shouldn’t quote the other apostles because Paul is our teacher “today.” But Yeshua warned us: John 15:6 (KJV) "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."
You can’t preach Paul and ignore the One Paul preached—Yeshua.
️ You Downplay the Power of the Spirit
Your constant defeatist view—“we all sin, we’re all guilty”—is not humility, it’s excuse-making. You mock the work of the Spirit in true believers who are walking in righteousness. Yeshua didn’t die to leave us in bondage, but to set us free (John 8:36). 1 John 3:6–9 (KJV) "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not... He that committeth sin is of the devil... Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin..."
You need to wrestle with that, not dismiss it.
Final Word
You said “spare your keystrokes.” But the truth is: I’ll never stop preaching the full counsel of YHWH—not for comfort, not for popularity, and definitely not to validate sin. You’re rejecting Scripture to cling to a version of Paul that Paul himself wouldn’t recognize.
You asked for verses—there they are. Now the question is, what will you do with them?
