Hi @whereu,
Hope life’s treating you well and you're finding some peace in this chaotic world.
Just wanted to address what Z keeps pushing regarding salvation. He firmly believes that a believer in Yeshua cannot lose their salvation—no matter what they do. But this belief simply isn’t biblical. It’s part of a modern, watered-down gospel that ignores some of the clearest teachings in Scripture.
This is why he constantly runs to Paul, thinking Paul somehow overrides Yeshua’s own words. But what he misses is that even Paul warned that salvation can be lost through willful sin, disobedience, and turning away.
Let me give you a simple yet confronting metaphor:
Z would have you believe that if a man once believed in Yeshua, even walked closely with Him, but later committed something as horrific as raping and murdering a child, and was then shot dead by police before he had any chance to repent—that man would still be saved and go to heaven. That’s what Z’s belief implies.
But the Bible says otherwise. There is no forgiveness for willful sin without repentance:
Hebrews 10:26–27 (KJV) – "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation…"
That verse alone refutes the idea of “once saved, always saved.” Salvation is not a one-time event—it’s a walk, a relationship, a life of obedience and sanctification.
So yes, someone can fall away, they can reject the Spirit, and they can absolutely lose the gift that was once offered to them.
This isn’t about perfection—but direction. And when someone willfully walks into sin and dies unrepentant, Scripture is clear: there is no redemption in that.
Z ignores this, and sadly, it's a very dangerous doctrine to promote.
