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re: 2nd qtr 2004 And the facts are what? That Lum has promised so much and delivered so little? The fact that LUM's share price has been subject to manipulation? That Times Square is taking longer than anticipated? But as you are able to recall all of these facts and a hell of a lot more seems to indicate to me that you have used an alias or you have spent a lot of time reading every single post on LUM. If you have read all the posts you will know that I have a substantial holding in LUM. You will also have noted that I am disappointed in the management of LUM who seem to have graduated from the John Howard University of spin and wordsmithing. Despite all of that I still hold and think LUM has a future So if you want to discuss this further leave contact details and I will be only to happy to discuss LUM with you. Thats if you are brave enough to do so