Bring in China as a partner

Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

look, it's pretty easy ------------- it's how we look at people - how we view people is what creates them as they are mostly

do you think that America wouldn't have known about the floor plan of ASIO HQ?

no - that would be inconceivable.

if we treat someone as an enemy ----------- simple stuff, they become your enemy if you try hard enough (thank you scotty).

America ----------- by it's OWN recognition - eg. see the Pentagon papers, has treated China as the enemy since about WW2

and America has gone out of it's way to drag Australia into the silliness --------- including taking us to war on the Asian mainland purely to contain China

with technology what it is. With everyone on the planet carrying an iphone -------- for things like the floorplans of ASIO

give them a bloody copy for gods sake.

look at the stupidity and illogicality of our sillyness -------------- we run about Canberra taking down Chinese security cameras - which we've taken apart and found bugger all bugs in them ----------- because we think China is watching

yet every MP and Parliament house worker, every government worker carries a bloody phone in their pocket made in China - complete with camera on the back, camera on the front and microphone

ffs ---------------- give them a floorplan ------- if they're interested.

We've been infected with American commophobia since WW2 --------- and particularly sick since that idiot Joseph McCarthy

yet - we picked up and used several ideas that came straight out off the communist party - those ideas which we cherish as great and they've improved our lives greatly

Interestingly enough - one nation on earth does NOT use those ideas and their lifestyle is GREATLY diminished by not having those ideas -

that nation is America - and those ideas include paid annual holidays, a good welfare system and management of working hours for people

all of those ideas came out of the communist party in France either just before WW2 or post WW2

look to american working conditions - they are crap in comparison.

it is logical and obvious that we should have security pacts with China and cooperate - far more so than with a retarded fearful war mongering America

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"We've been infected with American commophobia since WW2". Yeah, it was the Cold War. It was thing, you know, where the world nearly blew up a few times cause of 30000 plus nukes in the wild. The USSR and the PRC were friends for a while, then Stalin died, Mao had a change of heart and Kissinger/Nixon got the PRC on board with the free world to fight the soviets in the 80s. Then Clinton gave the PRC "most favored nation" status and entry into the WTO. The PRC weren't enemies for a long time. The US and PRC were almost buddies, until Xi got in.

The PRC got rich cause they sat at the same table as the free world and shared in global trade. Now they think they can be the top dawg? Do you want to have a petulant mob like the CCP controlling who can trade with who? Who can talk to who? Would you be willing to submit your social credit score to your WeChat account for verification when you apply for a home loan?

No thanks.