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13/06/22

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Originally posted by moorookamick: ↑

Our subs are not going to be Nuclear Armed and that was my point.
We still have to rely on the US Nuke Armed Subs as the deterrant.

So the we have to ask, if our proposed Nuke are only Nuke propelled Subs
(Not Nuke Armed) , then what role do they play as a deterrent?

Do we expect the Chinese to arrive here first in a vulnerable flotilla
of ships? IMO no. China will have learned the mistakes made by Russia
in the Ukraine war .

IMO if China ants to attack/respond to a West attack it will be via
its Hypersonic ICBMs which which can take out our major population
centres & military.airforce & naval centres within half an hour

The question is: Can we rely on the USA to protect us in such an event?
IMO, no and the Russian invasion of the Ukraine is an example of that.
IMO, once the Ukraine War settles there will be ghost cities and ghost
factories left and the bottom like lesson here is if Russia had been
intelligent it would have remotely bombed the Donbass into a wreck
before it risked its troops on the ground and, that IMO, is the lesson that
China will have learned whether that be dealing with Taiwan or Aus.

This is why the Yanks in 1945 firebombed Tokyo & Nuked Hiroshima
and Nagasaki rather than risking US troops on the ground on mainland Japan.

IMO Nuke powered Subs that are not Nuke Armed may be OK for
countering an non Nuke Indonesiam threat, but worth diddly squat
in facing a Nuked-Up China.

And the ay the USA is going economically, we'll have to pay
protection money to the USA to protect us from China .
Trump's pressure on EU countries re their contribution to NATO
is merely the tip of that iceberg, IMO.

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China and Australia were allies in WW2.
The ONLY reason China will attack Australia today is if Australia joined US over a war for Republic of China (aka Taiwan) which technically is still in a state of civil war that has not ended since WW2 between PRC vs ROC.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sheer lunatic.
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