Can we all agree Ukraine is losing the war??, page-318

Re "I agree up until your last paragraph"

Well my last paragraph reads as follows

"If Obama and Nuland had not got their man Zelenskky into power in 2014, there would have been a more aggressive plan B, and it would not have involved Putin invading."

I see, so you think Obama and Biden would have left their lucrative corporate and political dealings (which still haven't been fully investigated) to be picked up by a Ukrainian who was not pro American.

Fair enough, I guess it's possible they would have quietly slipped away, but, I have to say, I've not seen any historical evidence that this is how US foreign policy operates. There again, Obama did reflect on the cruelty of his drone attacks on children in his lucrative book, so maybe he wasn't all evil.