can we believe what we see?, page-26

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    Absolutely agree re: Peterson and social conditioning.

    Women can of course be conditioned to, eg, prefer to focus on a provider role in relationships. I think that the problem we face is that we have changed much in our culture such that women can be valued for their nurturing/ home skills and their career/ provision status, the same has not happened for men.

    Peterson sort of gets it right with the "crisis of meaning" in men, but I think he misses what the problem and logical next step is.
    Women can choose career or family making/ care giving. Men can only really choose career. (We also have the antiquated standards of the man being the "protector", but that's another thing entirely).

    Relationships are about complementary skills leading to a shared outcome. Peterson misses this. Women choose lesser careers IMO because they on some level recognise that the higher their income is, the harder it will be to find a man with more. This standard is so old! There's no reason a woman with a $150k per year career can't choose a man who works in a supermarket, but, that man - having less "provider" status - is "not as good" as her. Men don't face this problem in the least - no one will question or shame a lawyer for having a wife who stays home. In fact, if a mans wife doesn't work it implies he earns enough to afford it, ie, he is "winning" at his career. Culturally, we are not applauding women for doing the same thing, so, why would they?

    This leaves women who are very career focused and driven feeling that they cannot choose an adequate partner. Women still tend to expect that their potential partners bring more provision to the relationship table, as they feel the expectation is on them to be in the caregiver role. Quite obviously home making, child rearing, and general home support skills are highly valuable and important to partnerships and families. There are many men who are not really very talented in the career department who would likely make lovely husbands and fathers to the children of these women, and yet, these antiquated standards ultimately keep women from forming a family with them.





 
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