Canberra Rally

Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

"That is absolutely true, there's far more to it - certain UN and other international agreements, Gough Whitlams treason by installing a "queen of Australia""

your arithmetic is as bad as your assumptions - I said 40 years -- Gough was 50 years back.

"In any case if "little late" is to imply "we can't change anything now" well that's a defeatists attitude, that's what got us into this mess "

you too easily confuse my opinion of 'redevelopment' with 'defeatism'

and, - now - let's see YOUR words --

"Just let the politicians send the country broke while your expenses balloon, your freedoms rights and privacy is eroded by this technocracy and don't dare protest for change - sit back"

they are your words

yet - over a lot of years here on Hot Copper - when I have stated the same things and more - I've been continually told that I'm unaustralian ---------- sometimes told that I was treasonous --

yet low and behold - now --- when the curtains are drawn back and all is revealed as exactly what I was saying was happening -

where are the apologies?? where are those who stand and say - sorry mate, you were right all the way though and none of us saw it???

you know where they are ? ====== they are in peanutville ----------- actually blaming the 'mad lefties' - those that don't have me on ignore

they are all out screaming their little boobies off from the rooftops now about their lost freedoms --

here's the tip - they had no vision 40 years ago, they were in denial if they did notice anything, so, they did absolutely bugger all about things - just let all those things that we loved about Australia - slide away into the foggy mist

now - you say - it's defeatism because I say - we cannot change anything -----

well, you are wrong there too ----------- it's just that now - there is no quick band aid fix - no aspirin will cope with this cancer

the ONLY way for Oz now is absolutely life or death radical surgery ---

has Oz got the guts?? ------------- IMO ------------- not a snowballs chance in hell

Oz will be thrown about in the surf like a battery toy boat with has got flat batteries - it will go with the whim of tide and wave---

that's fact my friend ----------- not defeatism ------- it's pure observation of truth

like Plato says -------------------- 'no one is more hated than he who speaks the truth'

why do you think I have such a dislike following?? -------- if I was wrong - they'd be able to easily shoot me down -

few have ever been able to - so, they make sure they can't see me - like a child hiding it's eyes behind it's hands - if they don't see me - I don't exist in their world

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your arithmetic is as bad as your assumptions - I said 40 years -- Gough was 50 years back.

As stated, my main assumption was you were referring to our self sabotage to China for short term gains. That was your point correct?
I then stated MY point that the treason that occurred under Gough - even if it was 10 years prior to your arbitrary number (which you gave no specific explanation as to why you chose that number) was another important factor to explain how we ended up here.
My point didn't require conforming to your 'arithmetic'.

and, - now - let's see YOUR words --

It's funny, you state that you're now quoting my words - as if to make a point relevant to my words... then proceed to waffle on about yourself, your haters, your past opinions on issues here and that you were right all along and are inserting an "I told you so".

New flash, I have no idea about your past here - besides the embarrassing years you spent as AJX's #1 shill before seemingly banishing yourself exclusively to the political forum.

now - you say - it's defeatism because I say - we cannot change anything -----
well, you are wrong there too ----------- it's just that now - there is no quick band aid fix - no aspirin will cope with this cancer
the ONLY way for Oz now is absolutely life or death radical surgery ---
has Oz got the guts?? ------------- IMO ------------- not a snowballs chance in hell

Finally, something related to the topic - and my words. I actually agree.
The problem is that you are claiming that there's no chance in hell Aus has the guts to change it... however for the past 2 years you've clearly been one of the lead "anti-vaxxers are dangers to society and deserve to lose their careers for refusing a medical treatment" ..

Now a couple hundred thousand show up to Canberra from all around the country ... from all walks of life ...
Yet despite above agreeing the system is broken - you've been saying it here for a long time and ostracized for it... that your present remarks here being against the movement isn't a defeatist attitude?

Hmm. This is the best chance we've had to "sack them all" - time to walk the walk if you still believe the system is broken rather than continue to hold disparaging beliefs here towards those of us who have - are willing - or wish they were able to stand up and head to Canberra.