''Without private investment there wouldn't be the required...

''Without private investment there wouldn't be the required rental properties for people to live in, kind of a major flaw in your master plan.''

under the current system - that's correct. Do you have difficulty with understanding that I said it needs a 'total renovation'? -------- got trouble understanding 'total' have we?

'I would throw out the idea that 'private enterprise does a better job than government'''
That's not just an idea, in most cases it's a reality. Secondary education is a prime example.''

how's aged care going for you?

power, water, public transport, housing ------------------------- private enterprise works for one thing - profit

we invented government to look after ourselves ------- not to make profit.

one requires good government ------------ bad government obviously is a fail -------------- but, the concept of government is fine - and has different objectives to private enterprise - who have ONE objective - at least in Australia

you can argue all you like - but, the 'results' are clear to see - Oz is a failing state - or if it's not - it's putting on a bloody good act worthy of an Academy award