re: perrenial - warmongers are dangerous idiots
You posted: ".....must admit , yak has toned down alot , though his agenda remains the same -- the promotion of zionism , war and isreal
Havent really toned down just got to the end of my patience argueing the same thing over and over with people who seemingly refuse to move an inch.
I have acceeded many, many times that Israel needs to evaluate what it does and needs to view the Palestinians as neighbours with a capacity to live in their own state.
I have at times decried the excesses of the IDF.
But that I do return to the main issue - that of Israel's right to exist - does in no way devalue those position changes.
The crew I have debated over and over and over seem to keep coming back to the same thing. "Get out of the "occupied" territories" and reel in the IDF.
And I say when and only when that surrender of ground won in a war that was started against Israel can be achieved with a guarantee of its right to a peaceful existence.
And as for the IDFlet this happen when the PLO and Hamas discontinue using civilian settings and civilian cover to perpetrate their acts of terror
As for your statement, I do not promote Zionism or war.
I do wholeheartedly and unashamedly advocate Israel has the right to exist and until such time as the PLO, Hamas, Arafat and the rest of the Arab world agree - you wont hear me change my tune!!
And I have had a waving Aussie flag as gif for a long time. So get your facts straight!
And if history is any guide....watch the rabble respond.
