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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Thought a piece written by Forrest on his blog was worth repeating with some input and additions.
Cheers
CELLESTIS (ASX:CST)
Startup biotech companies can have huge promise. Unfortunately, in the end very few live up to their promise. Investors need to be very choosy about which biotech investments they risk their capital on. ASX listed Cellestis is one of a very few such companies, unlike many biotech?s, it has developed past the research and development stage, selling its product (TB blood test) here and overseas. Cellestis has gone from a start up to a profitable business, a fact that only a handful of Australian biotech companies achieve..
✔ A potential market of ~ $800m - $1bn
✔ Cash flow positive, Profitable
✔ Paying Dividends increased dividends by 100% this financial year
✔ FDA approved (twice), Centre for Disease Control USA. (CDC) guidelines accepted June 2010. All regulatory approvals are in place, clinical data required to support sales has been generated.
✔ Recurring and largely compulsory market
✔ Strong and lengthy IP protection until 2023
✔ Extensive product pipeline CMV, Leishmania, Lyme disease etc. new product development represents the future growth of the company
✔ Honest and competent management with integrity
COMPANY OVERVIEW
Cellestis owns the patented QuantiFERON (QTF) methodology for medical diagnosis (originally developed by the CST Directors whilst employed at CSIRO back in the 1990?s). The technology is an Intereferon Gamma Release Assay (IGRA) which has the potential to revolutionise the diagnosis and treatment of a wide range of conditions that are otherwise difficult or impossible to effectively diagnose. Potentially, QTF could be used to diagnose Tuberculosis, Cytomegalovirus, Lyme Disease and many forms of cancer. The company has elected to concentrate initially on the huge potential of a diagnostic for TB.
The company was floated on the ASX in 2001 and has spent the subsequent time in refining the diagnostic and developing a consensus acceptance in the medical community. With over 400 independent peer reviewed studies, the QuantiFERON technology is now well recognized throughout the medical community. The methodology now has full FDA approval in the USA and the CDC has released positive guidelines for its use. For the Investor, CST now presents an exposure to the exciting biotech field with an unusually low risk profile. Ten years of solid building has the company making profits, currently paying a modest dividend and intends to give dividends in line with the company?s profits.
TUBERCULOSIS
Around the world, every year, around ten million people are diagnosed with active TB and two million die from this curable disease. One of the main reasons for this appalling and unnecessary loss of life is the lack of an effective diagnostic for TB infection. After 100 years of this state of affair, only one company, Cellestis, has developed a clinically practical, whole blood serological diagnostic for TB ? QuantiFERON-TB Gold is superior in accuracy and specificity to the current test and delivers better value for money. Tuberculosis itself exists in two states. Many people are unknowingly infected with TB but show no symptoms (latent TB or LTBI). It is only when their immune system is unable to contain the latent infection that this TB becomes active and communicable. Many conditions can cause this conversion, including other diseases, HIV, immunosuppressive therapies (eg arthritis treatment) or ageing. Once latent TB becomes active it is highly communicable.
TB is endemic in much of the world and is an issue of extreme concern in every country. The combination of HIV and TB is particularly deadly and it has been estimated that one-third of the deaths of HIV patients can be attributed to TB.
In more recent times drug resistant forms of TB (MDRTB, XDRTB) are becoming more common.
The treatment of these forms of TB are very expensive and are not always successful.
All experts agree that the only way to ultimately control TB is to diagnose and treat the pool of latent TB.
The only existing test for latent TB is a more cumbersome skin test that has been in use for well over 100 years. The skin test is notoriously inaccurate, not specific enough to differentiate between those vaccinated against TB and those with latent infection. As a result it gives a large number of false positives. It has often been referred to as "the most hated diagnostic" amongst medical practitioners.
MARKETS
Cellestis have defined their initial markets for QuantiFERON-TB Gold as the developed world, currently more than 50million skin tests are carried out each year.
USA. In the USA, QTF-TB Gold has received full FDA approval and more importantly has had full guidelines for its use, published by the CDC. These guidelines permit the use of QTF-TB Gold in all circumstances. Furthermore, in many situations it is recommended as the preferred test (over the skin test). These latest guidelines were released in June 2010 and will accelerate market take-up. It is estimated that the total market potential in the USA is 15 million tests per year.
Cellestis markets in the USA through a wholly owned subsidiary. Currently the Quantiferon-TB test sells for US$22.00 with a granted health rebate.
JAPAN. Japan has an enormous problem with TB due both to their social structures and the fact that their population is almost 100% BCG vaccinated (rendering the skin test ineffective). The use of QTF-Gold TB has been approved by the MHLW (similar to FDA) and has been incorporated into the Japan TB control guidelines. QTF-TB Gold is marketed in Japan by the largest TB control organization in Japan, Nippon BCG. The market for TB testing in Japan is estimated at around 12 million tests per year.
EUROPE. QTF-TB Gold has full CE-Mark approval in Europe. Many European countries have now adopted QTF-TB Gold into their TB control programs. The estimated market in Europe is 10 million tests per year. QTF-TB Gold is marketed in Europe through a wholly owned subsidiary based in Germany and qualified distributors.
Currently the QFT-TB test has around 3% of the developed world market.
RISKS
Every investment has potential risks. Cellestis has minimized most risks with a conservative management style and an aggressive approach to ensuring medical acceptance. This approach has resulted in a lengthy process but investment grade outcomes.
NON-ACCEPTANCE. The medical profession is inherently conservative and is often hesitant to change established procedures. With our health in their hands this is an understandable attribute. Cellestis have taken on the task of moving this market through the accepted approach of independent, peer reviewed trials. This approach has rewarded with even the most conservative of the medical community now publically stating their belief in the improvements that QTF-TB Gold brings to TB control. The risk of non-acceptance is now minimal ? the only question yet to be answered is the rate of adoption.
COMPETITION. The main competition is the incumbent skin test. This is a well known test and therefore has a certain market inertia. On the other hand, its deficiencies are well known, returns many false positives.
Another IGRA (T-Spot) has been developed but it is at a significant disadvantage to QTF-TB Gold because it cannot be used on whole blood, is far more complex to perform and much more expensive.
FINANCIAL RISK. The company has no debt, $20 million in cash, is cash flow positive and is making a profit,
The risk of failure through financial event is extremely minimal.
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (IP). Through a combination of patents and licensing the QTF-TB Gold product is well protected until at least 2020. Patents over the In-Tube technology used in the diagnostic further provides protection for other products through to at least 2023. It will be difficult for a generic test to just copy. Another company would have to go through the same process as Cellestis has undertaken (around 6 years), expensive process, cannot get me too approval, not many companies are going to do this when there is an incumbent.
PERSONNEL. The company is driven by the current Directors. Their ongoing involvement would be seen as of great import to the future of the company. There is no indication to date that their commitment to the company will change.
The biotech sector cops flak from attracting spruikers the Directors, Dr Radford and Dr Rothel are the exact opposite, bordering on reticent, they refuse to talk up sales figures or flood the market with boastful but immaterial announcements.
Among the board members is Chairman, Ron Pitcher who is also on the board of Reece and Macmillan Shakespeare also well lead companies.
FINANCIALS.
Cellestis announced a maiden profit in 2007 and commenced paying a dividend in 2008. F/Y sales 06/09 increased 83% to $34.4 million, net profit after tax grew 391% to $8.2 million this is due to the high 62.4% Gross Profit Margin and low overheads. ROE 37%.
EQUITY.
The company has 96m shares on issue, no options, 30% of shares are held by the
Directors and almost 40% are held by the top 20 shareholders.
This information should not be taken as financial advice. Always do your own research
July 2010
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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