The orders for 2008 didn't disappear. They got put into the...

The orders for 2008 didn't disappear. They got put into the bigger order of 63k on the close...that was the balance of the order...it was an OTD order, with a 50c limit. The order didn't get completed and has now been pulled completely. Maybe it comes back tomorrow, maybe it doesn't. It was the exact opposite of manipulation, though. In fact, it was as transparent as you can get - you knew the total volume, the price and the time. They told you what they were doing. They could of course have sold 200k into the bid in a single line or just stuck it on the offer but that would also have brought cries of manipulation...seems that prices are only ever "manipulated" down, never up...and only when people are losing money.

Anyway, I'm out of here. Whenever a thread descends into "bots" and "manipulation" its a sure sign that the well is empty in terms of value-add.

Good luck to everyone. Hope the patient can make some money and that impatient don't lose too much.