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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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have been playing with the new ChatGPT model 01 review ( better in reasoning) - here my latest queries and answers;
From the viewpoint of a potential acquirer like China Grand Pharma, deciding when to acquire OncoSil Medical Limited involves balancing the trade-off between risk and reward.
Acquiring Now (Before FDA Approval and at a Lower Market Cap)
Pros:
Lower Acquisition Cost: With a current share price of 1.4 cents and a market cap of around $55 million, acquiring OncoSil now would require a smaller financial outlay compared to post-FDA approval when the valuation is likely to be higher.
First-Mover Advantage: Early acquisition allows the acquirer to secure exclusive rights to the OncoSil™ device technology, preventing competitors from entering the space or bidding up the price.
Potential for High Returns: If FDA approval is subsequently obtained, the value of the OncoSil™ device could increase significantly, offering substantial returns on the initial investment.
Influence Over Development: Early acquisition provides the acquirer with control over the regulatory approval process, clinical trials, and commercialization strategies, potentially accelerating time-to-market.
Strategic Alignment: For a company like China Grand Pharma looking to expand its oncology portfolio, acquiring OncoSil now could fill a strategic gap and enhance its global footprint in cancer treatment technologies.
Cons:
Regulatory Risk: The primary risk is the uncertainty surrounding FDA approval. If the OncoSil™ device fails to obtain approval, the investment could suffer significant losses.
Additional Investment Required: Post-acquisition, the acquirer may need to invest additional resources into ongoing clinical trials, regulatory compliance, and commercialization efforts, increasing the total cost.
Integration Challenges: Early acquisition may pose challenges in integrating OncoSil's operations, culture, and technology into the acquirer’s existing infrastructure.
Acquiring Later (Post-FDA Approval and at a Potentially Higher Market Cap)
Pros:
Reduced Risk: FDA approval significantly de-risks the investment by validating the safety and efficacy of the OncoSil™ device, ensuring regulatory compliance in a major market.
Market Validation: Successful commercialization efforts and clinical adoption in initial markets provide proof of concept, making future revenue streams more predictable.
Strategic Clarity: With more data on market reception, competitive landscape, and reimbursement scenarios, the acquirer can make a more informed decision.
Cons:
Higher Acquisition Cost: Post-FDA approval, OncoSil's share price and market cap are likely to increase, making the acquisition more expensive.
Competitive Bidding: Other potential acquirers may enter the fray, leading to a bidding war that could further inflate the acquisition price.
Missed Opportunity for Value Creation: Delaying the acquisition means the acquirer misses out on the value appreciation that occurs between now and FDA approval.
Reduced Influence Over Strategy: Acquiring later may limit the acquirer’s ability to influence product development, branding, and market positioning strategies established by OncoSil.
Conclusion
From an acquirer's perspective, the decision hinges on their risk tolerance, strategic objectives, and financial capacity.
If Risk-Tolerant and Seeking High Growth Potential: Acquiring OncoSil now could be advantageous. The lower acquisition cost and the potential for high returns post-FDA approval make it an attractive proposition for a company willing to navigate regulatory uncertainties.
If Risk-Averse and Preferring Certainty: Waiting until after FDA approval might be preferable. Although the acquisition cost would be higher, the investment would carry less risk, and future revenues would be more predictable.
Additional Considerations
Synergy Potential: Evaluate how OncoSil’s technology complements the acquirer's existing product portfolio and whether synergies can be realized to offset risks.
Regulatory Expertise: If the acquirer has strong capabilities in navigating FDA processes, they might mitigate regulatory risks by acquiring now.
Market Dynamics: Assess the competitive landscape. If competitors are likely to make a move, acquiring sooner could preempt rival bids.
Financial Health: Consider the acquirer's current financial position. A lower upfront cost now might be more manageable than a higher cost later.
Recommendation
For China Grand Pharma, which may have the resources and appetite to take calculated risks for substantial rewards, acquiring OncoSil now could be more favorable. Early acquisition allows the company to secure a promising technology at a lower cost, influence its development, and capitalize on the significant value appreciation expected post-FDA approval. However, this decision should be backed by thorough due diligence, including a risk assessment of the FDA approval process and a strategic plan for integration and commercialization.
The current China stimulus package and the share market frenzy in Hong Kong significantly influence the strategic considerations for a potential acquirer like China Grand Pharma in deciding whether to acquire OncoSil Medical Limited now or later. Here's how these factors come into play:
Impact of China's Stimulus Package
1. Increased Liquidity and Access to Capital
Easier Financing: The stimulus package is designed to boost the economy by injecting liquidity into the financial system. This means banks and financial institutions have more capital to lend, often at lower interest rates. China Grand Pharma can leverage this environment to secure affordable financing for acquisitions.
Support for Strategic Sectors: The Chinese government often prioritizes sectors like healthcare and biotechnology in its economic plans. The stimulus may include incentives, subsidies, or favorable policies for companies investing in these areas, both domestically and internationally.
2. Government Encouragement for Outbound Investments
Policy Backing: With the stimulus aiming to strengthen the economy, the government may encourage companies to acquire advanced technologies and intellectual property from abroad to enhance China's competitive edge.
Streamlined Approvals: The stimulus environment might lead to faster regulatory approvals for outbound investments, reducing bureaucratic hurdles and accelerating the acquisition process.
Impact of Share Market Frenzy in Hong Kong
1. Enhanced Valuations and Fundraising Opportunities
Stronger Market Position: The share market frenzy leads to higher stock valuations. If China Grand Pharma is listed or raises funds in Hong Kong, its increased market capitalization can provide more leverage for acquisitions.
Equity Financing: Elevated share prices make it more attractive to raise capital through equity offerings. The company can issue new shares at a premium, reducing the dilution of existing shareholders while raising substantial funds.
2. Positive Investor Sentiment
Investor Confidence: A bullish market reflects high investor confidence, which can support ambitious growth strategies, including significant acquisitions.
Strategic Timing: Taking advantage of the positive market sentiment can position China Grand Pharma favorably in the eyes of investors who are eager for growth and returns.
Strategic Advantages of Acquiring Now
1. Financial Leverage
Lower Cost of Capital: With increased liquidity and favorable financing conditions, the cost of capital is reduced, making it financially prudent to invest now.
Currency Strength: The stimulus may lead to a stronger Chinese yuan, making foreign acquisitions cheaper in yuan terms.
2. Preempting Competition
First-Mover Advantage: Acquiring OncoSil before FDA approval and before other competitors act allows China Grand Pharma to secure valuable technology at a lower cost.
Locking in Value: By acting now, the company can avoid the risk of OncoSil's valuation increasing post-FDA approval or due to improved market conditions.
3. Synergy Realization
Integration Benefits: Early acquisition allows more time to integrate OncoSil's technology and operations, optimizing the benefits and synergies sooner.
Market Expansion: Leveraging OncoSil's existing approvals in the EU, UK, and other countries, China Grand Pharma can expand its global footprint more rapidly.
Risks and Considerations
1. Market Volatility
- Asset Bubble Risk: A market frenzy can sometimes precede a correction. China Grand Pharma should assess the risk of overvaluation in both its own stock (if used for financing) and the broader market.
2. Regulatory Scrutiny
Outbound Investment Controls: Despite stimulus measures, Chinese authorities monitor large foreign acquisitions to prevent excessive capital outflow. Ensuring compliance with regulatory requirements is crucial.
Foreign Regulatory Approval: Acquiring an Australian company requires navigating Australian foreign investment regulations, which may scrutinize deals involving critical technology or sectors.
3. Integration Challenges
Cultural Differences: Merging operations across different countries involves managing cultural and organizational differences, which can be complex.
Focus on Core Business: During times of economic stimulus, companies may prioritize strengthening core operations over pursuing risky acquisitions.
Conclusion
Strategic Recommendation:
Given the favorable economic conditions created by the China stimulus package and the positive market dynamics in Hong Kong, it is strategically advantageous for China Grand Pharma to consider acquiring OncoSil Medical Limited now rather than later. The benefits include:
Lower Acquisition Cost: Taking advantage of OncoSil's current lower market valuation before potential FDA approval increases its worth.
Financial Conditions: Utilizing the increased liquidity and favorable financing terms to fund the acquisition more cost-effectively.
Competitive Positioning: Securing the technology and market position ahead of competitors, especially in a sector critical to healthcare advancements.
Action Steps:
Conduct Comprehensive Due Diligence: Assess OncoSil's financials, regulatory status, and potential risks thoroughly to make an informed decision.
Engage with Regulatory Bodies: Proactively work with Chinese and Australian regulators to ensure compliance and smooth approval processes.
Leverage Market Conditions: Use the favorable stock market conditions to raise capital if necessary, possibly through equity financing in Hong Kong.
Plan for Integration: Develop a clear integration strategy to realize synergies and address potential cultural and operational challenges.
Overall Impact
The stimulus and market conditions act as catalysts that lower financial barriers and provide strategic incentives for China Grand Pharma to proceed with the acquisition now. Delaying the acquisition might mean facing higher costs, increased competition, and potentially less favorable economic conditions.
In Summary: The current China stimulus package and share market frenzy in Hong Kong create a conducive environment for China Grand Pharma to acquire OncoSil Medical Limited now. The increased liquidity, supportive government policies, and favorable market sentiment reduce financial barriers and enhance strategic advantages, making an immediate acquisition more favorable from the acquirer's viewpoint.
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
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