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11/10/19
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Originally posted by bj789:
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sorry but you have no idea of the inequality of the power of US industry versus Jap industry. Also the Yanks got very little assistance from the Allies in the Pacific - who might they have been anyway? Australia and who else? The Japs gave up on attempting to get to India - supply would have been a nightmare. As it was the Japs weren't able to supply their troops effectively for the closer ground they had. Also the Japs lost their superiority at sea once Midway was sorted they had no carriers to protect their shipping, their navy was at the mercy of the Yankee airplanes - why do you think they resorted to Kamikaze tactics, their own bodies were all they had left. Also the Yanks didn't need Fat Man and Little Boy - you do realise the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more Japanese than was caused by the Hiroshima bombing? One last thing the Japs were scared of was fighting on two major fronts as the Russians had designs on Manchuria, it was partly to demonstrate to Russia that they'd better back off the Japanese that the Yanks dropped nuclear weapons, and to save the lives of their soldiers of course due to the fanaticism of the Japs. But the Yanks and Japan ending in a stalemate? not in a million years, the Japs were screwed as soon as they took on America and they knew it from the start. By attacking Pearl Harbour they had hoped to cripple the US fleet sufficient for them to buy time and negotiate with the Yanks for an honourable outcome. The Japs were never delusional to the point where they thought they could actually beat the Yanks in straight combat, they knew it was logistically impossible - they wanted a negotiated settlement to keep some of their ill gotten land gains but they greatly underestimated the determination of the Yanks, who, to give them their due fought very bravely in both Europe and the Pacific. The Japs were also hampered by their delusions about being the master race - they fairly quickly found out they were not.
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Fair enough, you have made a logical argument based on better facts than I, now realise that I had forgotten many of the points you raised and your point of view is more realistic than mine. So to repeat your question in post #40819497 If the Japs knew they would lose before they started the Pacific war, why on earth did they ever start?