Christ is The God Man -Jehovah in the flesh, page-326

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    Greetings from US,

    Wotsup, it has been shown to you time and again that Jehovah after having created his Son, then went on to create every other creature and every other thing ''through'' him. - Col 1:15-17.

    Just because something is shown time and time again, doesn't make it true.
    You know how it goes, if you keep telling yourself a LIE long enough, you eventually believe it.

    Created his son -> according to Gens creation account, we see -> And God said and God said, around ten times and it was.
    God gave His word (God said), known as part of the Word to the angel who passed it on to Mary and Lo and Behold, the first ever literal, physical beginning of Jesus began at Conception.
    Before then, Jesus was simply -> Eph 3:9 which is also part of The Word -> And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things: -> Isa 44:24 - Thus saith Yahweh thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I Yahweh that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;



    Your references of Isa 44:9:11 does absolutely ZERO for your cause OR give any reason whatsoever, to suggest Jesus helped God create.
    The simple fact of the Bible truths, tells us, Jesus ONLY literally came into existence at conception.
    Leaving you, considering the Isa 44:24 verse and many more like it, NO option but to view the meaning of the word "through", in the following context -> On account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of the future Jesus, the one to be, Yahweh God ALONE and By HIMSELF, created all things.
    At the very best, ALL we can say is, that when God created, there were some hosts possibly there OBSERVING God and God alone creating.


    Jesus refers to Yahweh as "HE" as in -> Matt 19:4 - And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
    Gen 1:27 - So God (Yahweh) created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    Zero hint whatsoever that Jesus was even there, never mind having a hands on, as God alone (hands on) created Man and in His Own image.
    Now seriously, I are going to tell us, that Jesus didn't bother to say the likes of, I was there when He made them?
    Jesus himself, the verse and other messages of his, suggests,..... he ONLY found out himself, BY reading it, HENCE, have YOU NOT read............

    Col 1:15 -17 - Who is the image of the invisible God (As was the 1st Adam), the firstborn of creation: ->In the mind and plans of God as per the likes of Eph 3:9).
    For IN him
    (the Jesus to be) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created through (on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of) him, and for him:

    And he is before all things (Eph 3:9, Rev 3:14, 13:8, Col 1:15), and through (on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of) him all things consist.
    And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning->,the firstborn-> from the dead; that in all thingshe might have the preeminence.

    Had he been the Master worker in creation as You falsely claim, there would be no if buts about preeminence.
    Through his achievements, which resulted in being raised, the literal, physical preeminence, THEN came into play and not before.

 
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