Tipster , first me in the sinbin now you. my objections to the Convertable Notes are basicaly : who would buy them unless they had a very special interest in the company , i mean 25 K for goodness sake .I see a few on here , that have said they have stumped up $20 K and they are not' happy little vegamites' , with the significant dilution that has ocurred .I mean if you are a holder , you have been mercifully diluted . I think existing holders are entitled to know who holds the Convertable Notes , also how many have been exercised . We know the information of who has taken shares in lieu of company debt . Also remember those who are still holders that did take shares in lieu of payment . have also been massively diluted . I don't think they would be very happy about that . I wonder if Folk was one on those . From the terminology used i thought it was a woman , with talk of 'peoples hubbys ' There may be more who come out of the woodwork , with the ongoing discussion.