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    I particularly like how you refused to tell me what you consider "catastophic". I'm sure that reason will become evidence soon enough. I'm sure you'll have some problem with the data, but wont be able to go further than say "Its not robust" or "Its corrupted" or something along those lines.

    But anyway, lets see some rebuttals for the following papers.

    1. "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground" https://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf
    One of the first papers to calculate the effect CO2 would have on temperature. (albeit, the estimates on climate sensitivity were on the high end, you must remember this was published over a century ago - a pretty good effort) Published in 1896, so I'm wanting to ask what bias would the author have? There was no green revolution, I cant think of the financial benefit that you conspiracy theorists always preach. And whilst this paper doesn't describe the "catastrophic" events you've asked, I've put this in to show how early scientists had hypothesised that CO2 had an effect on our climate.

    So, lets look at the factors that affect temperature on earth. And lets see if and how they fluctuate through time, lets see if theres any trends, or causal relationships etc etc.

    2. "Climate Sensitivity during the Phanerozoic: Lessons for the future" "https://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2009/110115royer/ndx_royer.pdf.htmlI've posted this paper a few times and I cant see a response from you.
    I've said this a few times, there are 2 main long term drivers of Climate - Solar irradiance & CO2. (There are other factors like albedo, Milankovitch cycles etc, but they tend to be "short term".
    Solar irradiance has slowly, predictably, increased over the last 500 million years. Yet the earth has gone through massive temperature changes throughout. Hot houses, snowball earth, and everything in between. So, there's no correlation between solar irradiance and global temperatures, We need to factor in the CO2, and this paper does that!

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/5719/5719463-337caad265132d0a6ff5592975490e9c.jpgThat's the graph ^^

    3. Atmospheric CO2: Principal Control Knob Governing Earth’s Temperature (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1190653#:~:text=The%20findings%20clearly%20show%20that,that%20of%20carbon%20dioxide%20itself.)

    Another paper reaffirming paper number 2.

    So, now just a couple of papers on the effect of that increase in temperature.

    4. Greenland Ice Sheet Surface Mass Loss: Recent Developments in Observation and Modeling (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40641-017-0084-8)

    5. Climate Change and Food Systems (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-15703-5_27#:~:text=Considerable%20evidence%20has%20by%20now,2021).

    This last one is a chapter with dozens of citations regarding production declines in many crops. Too many for me to link individually, so check out a few at your convenience.

    So please, read the papers, explain the flaws you have found. Better, yet, CC me in on an email to the authors and universities, I'd love to see how happy they are that someone has found mistakes in the papers.

 
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