When you remove the emotion & politics the facts are never debated its become a new religion vever to believed, like australia's pre emminent climate change believer tim flannery who was an ecologist (thats what his books said before hand) who never was a climatologist only a mammalogist, palaeontologist you get the feeling their is lots of money involved refer al gore & his associations with fund management
on a side note old Tim is quoted as Sustainable whaling
When, in the concluding chapters of The Future Eaters (1994), Flannery discusses how to "utilise our few renewable resources in the least destructive way", he remarks that
A far better situation for conservation in Australia would result from a policy which allows exploitation of all of our biotic heritage, provided that it all be done in a sustainable manner. ... [I]f it is possible to harvest for example, 10 mountain pygmy-possums (Burramys parvus) or 10 southern right whales (Balaena glacialis) per year, why should we not do it? ... Is it more moral to kill and consume a whale, without cost to the environment, than to live as a vegetarian in Australia, destroying seven kilograms of irreplaceable soil, ... for each kilogram of bread we consume?[20]
In late 2007, Flannery suggested that the Japanese whaling involving the relatively common Minke Whale might be sustainable:
In terms of sustainability, you can't be sure that the Japanese whaling is entirely unsustainable... It's hard to imagine that the whaling would lead to a new decline in population[21]
Thanks tim
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