I agree iceman, what labour did with its leadership changes was down right disgraceful. Not that it happened. More so the way it happened and for that I don't think shorten should ever be leader of this country. The difference with labour and the libs is the libs right from the outset backed the wrong horse. Mind you it was a difference of only a couple of votes I think when sir tony beat Malcolm
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