CO2 smashing extreme weather records

Originally posted by aatisket: ↑

"They:
1. Do not say what you claim they say; and
2. Do not support your argument.

QED"

What are you on about? Not one hint of an opinion and then a "QED", magnificent!!
One heading says "The Great Lakes Go Dry: How One-Fifth Of The World’s Fresh Water Is Dwindling Away"

The other say "Record-shattering Great Lakes water levels could be even higher in 2020 ... And the cycle is reinforcing; one really warm year led to more than a decade of dropping lake levels."

Here's an even better one "Bigger picture, it’s climate change,” said Richard B Rood, a professor in the University of Michigan’s department of climate and space sciences and engineering. “There’s no doubt that we are in a region where climate change is having an impact."
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/03/great-lakes-region-flooding-climate-crisis

Same place, 2 different alarmists extremes, and yet the science is settled and the planet is getting warmer, dryer, cooler and wetter in whatever quantity fits the narrative.

Re "Scientists claim a likely long term decline in lake levels. Scientists also recognise high variability. Denial dude uses inflammatory "alarmist" language.
What's new."

You can't be that misguided, surely? You, on the climate change believer side, are accusing me of using "alarmist" language, when I point out the extreme nature of the discourse in this debate. Was it the more sceptical in the community that fawned over a young girl scared sh%tless in front of the world's cameras? Is it the sceptics glueing themselves to roads and spraying themselves and government buildings with red dye?

I'm quite prepared to believe we have an uncertain future, regardless of what's changing the climate I am not using alarmist language, in fact, if you read my posts I am pointing out quite clearly the stupidity of the alarmist language. I don't believe there is any strong evidence to support alarm.

What you are highlighting is exactly why the science is not settled and all the certainty about our pending demise is completely ridiculous.

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Tedious, so one last response:

I have pointed out in detail where your articles do not support what you say the science is saying. Read the scientists statements, both those that I quoted and those that are otherwise included in your article. They are neither incorrect nor alarmist.

Quoting two newspaper headlines is not a science argument. These headlines sell papers. They are not science.

Regarding your Guardian quote, this time actually from a scientist:
""Bigger picture, it’s climate change,” said Richard B Rood, a professor in the University of Michigan’s department of climate and space sciences and engineering. “There’s no doubt that we are in a region where climate change is having an impact.""

This is an accurate statement. That area is being affected by climate change. They expect high variability and a century long trend to lower lake levels. If you've read much of the science you should understand that the general tendency is towards longer more severe droughts due to greater heat, and heavier large rainfall events when they do occur. This contributes to the extremes seen, including, it appears, for the Great Lakes.

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So if you were making a case that newspapers use alarmist language to sell papers, I'd agree.

But you've made no case that the scientists are either alarmist or wrong.

It is warming. We are seeing the expected greater extremes. And it looks like the studies of the Great Lakes show they are no exception to that.