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    denmor, I wouldn't expect the commentators you quote to put up a positive argument about the NBN, as they have been longtime anti NBN.

    I do note that they seem to generally just express their opinion without backing them up with verifiable supporting arguments, references or links.

    Below are some of their previous comments, comments about them, and comments from others regarding the NBN debate.




    08/02/2011
    NBN still a tough sell for some

    IAN MARTIN, TELECOMMUNICATIONS ANALYST: I don't support the NBN. I think it doesn't often value for money, it's a very cost-intensive way of meeting broadband requirements.


    KEVIN MORGAN, TELECOMMUNICATIONS ANALYST: Essentially, it's not needed. It's not needed. And look round the world: who else is doing this kind of thing?

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/business/items/201102/s3133638.htm

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    NBN is welfare for tech-heads

    Grahame Lynch

    While the Coalition's proposed government investment is miserly in comparison with Labor's, it is still way ahead of most comparable countries.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/nbn-is-welfare-for-tech-heads/story-e6frg6zo-1225904633837

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    Comments from others:-
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    Re:Grahame Lynch

    Being a Telecom Exec in the past is not a valid excuse for expert opinion and Grahame Lynch has had his opinions firmly rebutted not only on Delimiter but forums such as Whirlpool and others. Even Simon Hacket has rebutted Grahame Lynch in direct face to face public interviews between the two where Grahame Lynch has come out basted and cooked well done.

    Some Fat B

    http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/3291733#post3291845

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    Grahame Lynch (Sticking up for Malcolm.)

    NBN pricing revisited: The ARPU argument

    In well-regarded industry newsletter Communications Day this morning, publisher Grahame Lynch takes a potshot at Delimiter and our audience over recent articles attempting to correct inaccurate statements from the Coalition

    http://delimiter.com.au/2012/02/10/nbn-pricing-revisited-the-arpu-argument/


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    (Comment on the Libs comparison claims released this week)

    They "predict" all these cost and time blowouts for the labor model, with no basis to infer that their own plan couldn't possibly be susceptible to similar delays (even though they actually have far more dependence on third parties like Telstra playing nice, and Labor's has already passed that phase, and Labor's has been costed by treasury, and Coalition's are purely their own projections).

    With download rates they list FTTP as "25-100 by 2021, when Gigabit is already being offered to some establishments over the current Labor NBN, and there's no technical reason why it couldn't be multiples of that in 8 years time.

    They fail to mention that their 100mbit maximum is the users on existing telstra and optus HFC cable that we can already get, and not their FTTN connections.

    They completely fail to mention Upload rates, which are 40Mbps over FTTP, and relatively crippled over asynchronous FTTN, and HFC.

    They say that the most commonly chosen plan for most users in 8 years time is only going to be 12Mbit, when the 100Mbit takeup of the current NBN plans has already been a surprisingly percentage.

    It's bordering on propaganda.

    Dan

    http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/3291733#post3292045

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    agree, we have only two people in my apartment which i bought, but in the apartment we have
    1 x Server
    1 x HTPC
    2 x PC
    2 x Laptops
    2 x phones
    2x tablets
    1 x Wii
    1 x FetchTV(IPTV)
    1x TV

    and if our gf or friends come over add extra device onto that. Pretty much everything is using the net.

    TiT


    http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/3291733#post3292111
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    Hypocrisy: The Australian attacks ABC’s NBN objectivity

    The articles by the newspaper come despite the fact that The Australian and other News Ltd newspapers have been cautioned in the past by the Australian Press Council, the industry self-regulator, for incorrect articles about the NBN.

    http://delimiter.com.au/2013/03/08/hypocrisy-the-australian-attacks-abcs-nbn-objectivity/

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