Thanks, KrushingIT... comparing apples with apples with the detail to back it up is the only way to give our CDH17 CAR-T some proper perspective. I've been running a lot of questions by Grok since the webinar.
The early data results of exceptional CAR-T expansion and persistence, coupled with Stable Disease, is what we want to be seeing. In the treatment of solid tumours, early Complete Responses are often transient. In the case of NETs, relapse often involves resistant clones (e.g. SSTR-negative after PRRT), making further control harder. SD, while less dramatic, offers a stable baseline for future interventions.
As your post highlights, Satri-cel's CAR-T trial is showing success despite no CR being applicable. SD with T-cell persistence is often more significant than non-durable CR. This prompted me to run a comparison by Grok about the preclinical data of Satri-cel vs our CDH17 program which I find to be insightful and most encouraging. The response from Grok was detailed, extensive, and too lengthy to post in its entirety, but this is pretty much covers it:-
And, here's just a snippet about the interesting science that makes our 3rd-Gen CAR-T what it is:-
So, one of the many benefits of NKG2D is that it stimulates NK-cells (the innate immune system) to join the battle. The co-stimulatory rocket blasters that Dr Bec quaintly refers to.
She also states in the webinar that there were no dose-limiting toxicities or adverse effects. which supports the preclinical data. What needs to be considered, though, is that the patients receiving our therapy have advanced cancer (in the case of Patient #2, stage 4 cancer). This means that SOC drugs could compromise the immune system and our therapy. I am going out on a limb here by pointing to the collaboration with Achieve Clinics no less than 28 days after the first patient was dosed. I'd say at that juncture the AC collab was critical to of our trial, the confidence of the team, and the reason for the delay. The significance of "untainted" patient T-cells is not emphasised in the ann nearly as much as the significance of providing reach and expediency iken to "off-the-shelf" allo-cells.
"Achieve Clinics Collaboration to Expand Reach of CHM CDH17" - 25 September 2024
Does this align with your interpretation, KrushingIT? "Loss to follow up" has been bugging me all week but connecting the dots now to the Achieve collab sort of appeases me.
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