gringgott, try asking dialysis patients, they have to have a huge needle 3 times a week. my brother just gone off that system purely becuase of the pain of the needles, his veins are over 2" high just becuase of the needles, the nurses give no pain killers just jamm it in again, he said the pain is excrutiating............he is now using the bag system at home,,,,,,,,,,in his case far more dangerous to his health,,,,,,,,,,,he would suicide due to the needles, and plenty of others do suicide.......and the list of dialysis patients is growing at an alarming number each year, ie all those with kidney problems
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