Dalai Lama, page-990

NO NO, he is a 2nd Adam and like the 1st, He did NOT pre-exist outside of the mind and plans of God, hence in this plan the Jesus to be was the firstborn of creation, the beginning of the creation of God and this plan fits in dead center of the verse John 1:1 along with a Gens creation plan which included us.
1:3 And the Word (part of) creation became............

YOU Mr G cannot place Jesus in 1:3 and say - and Jesus said, and Jesus said let there be light.
Goodness me Mt G, WHAT do you do with the likes of Isa 44:24, Psa 33:6,9???????????
Not to mention what the Greeks CLEARLY have to say with reference to the "through" word, when we see things made through Jesus.

What the hec do you do with the verse where Jesus says -> Have you not read, He that created them in the beginning = in NO way does Jesus even hint at, he was there, so why NOT Mr G.
How the bleepers do you people live with these unanswered plausible points???????????????????????????????????????????????????

"The Scriptures are clear that God as the Creator has many angelic sons."

Now seriously, how do you think this does anything to help your false claim?

You admit God is the creator, so that means he has to be the one creator for John 1:3, and God said, and God said, so how hec can you place Jesus in 1:3, which then as you cannot, have to transfer back to 1:1, 2 and remove Jesus from there as well.
As the one who is the Word IS the one that created 1:3.