FINALLY someone talking sense, thank you Lister!!! Considering the tumultuous year, TSV is in very good stead and seems to not be recognised by many on this forum. The constant pessimistic posts are getting tiresome and remind me of grizzling children. I agree, if you aren't happy - get out and leave us, that have long term faith to reap the benefits. It takes time and eventually it will happen. Go with it.