If people explain themselves this simply and others fail to understand, then it is not the fault of the messenger, it's the fault of the listener who fails to accept the truth. If that continues to occur, you have no hope and you are probably dealing with a mongol and there is no point going further. On the politics thread of all places, this is a common phenomena. But its the ones that ate taking the pith that are hardest to pick.
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