II'd call your first one a morning star @scooter83 - the third...

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    I'd call your first one a morning star @scooter83 - the third candle only has to close well into the first black candle to make the pattern, it's done that and a bit more.

    A dark cloud cover is stronger the lower it closes into the previous white candle's body, this one pulled up a bit so it could be a weaker result.

    I think the most important thing is to wait for confirmation of any patterns with subsequent candle activity and to bear in mind where they are occuring within a trend, take them in context with volume as well.
 
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