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28/07/17

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Originally posted by Copperbod ↑

"if you run a red light you are making a decision in a moment of time that God is not constrained by such a dimension. Just because he knew you would break a road rule before you did it does not mean you had no freedom to be a hoon on the road. "

I'm afraid that doesn't make sense.
If God knew beforehand that the road rule would be broken, ie, it was preordained, then there was no alternative and the "decision" is entirely an illusion. You are merely the actor going through the motions and unaware that you are an actor.
Your "hooness" was preordained at the beginning of time and there is no free will involved.

This can be extended to all forms of so called "sin" right back to poor young innocent Adam and Eve.
That is what the idea of an omniscient God fosters and no amount of wriggling or tap dancing can get around this conundrum.

Removing from an individual the responsibility for one's own actions is a road paved with undesirable consequences for the individual and society in general.
Not surprising Christians have to be forgiven all the time and require someone else to pay for their sins.

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If God knew beforehand that the road rule would be broken, ie, it was preordained, then there was no alternative and the "decision" is entirely an illusion. You are merely the actor going through the motions and unaware that you are an actor.
Your "hooness" was preordained at the beginning of time and there is no free will involved.

If our lives are preordained, there is no reason to make an effort at anything. Because it would happen (or not happen) anyway.

Trouble is, if I decide to do nothing today, nothing will happen here.

No need to write in to have my speeding ticket reviewed... it's been decided already.

It's a cop-out for faillures.
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