Hi Pear,
Firstly, I personally am neither for nor against Catholics nor their church and the only time I've been into a cathedral was a few decades ago when I was a tourist in Europe. Apart from a few notoriously evil priests that we've all become aware of recently, I'm sure the vast majority of Catholics are decent folk like the rest of us so please don't judge me as being anti-catholic.
Secondly, I personally am also neither for nor against Seventh Day Adventists and apart from their claim about Saturday being the 7th day, a claim supported by every calendar I've seen, I assume they're just another Protestant group.
I watched Walter Veith's lecture and thought he raised some interesting points, but only time will tell if they have any validity, so I will just wait and see.
Re. the Inverted Cross, according to
http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A084rcInvertdCross.htm :
On his visit to the Holy Land, John Paul II chose to sit on a throne with an inverted cross on its back. This took place on March 24, 2000 during a Mass said for youth at Korazin, the site where Our Lord delivered the Sermon of the Mount. To sit on a throne with an inverted cross sends a mixed symbolic message.
On one hand, although an inverted cross has never before been used as a papal symbol, St. Peter asked to die on an inverted cross as an expression of his humility. So, it can be understood in reference to this fact.
On the other hand, the inverted cross is a classic symbol used by the worse enemies of the Catholic Church to mock the Redemption of Jesus Christ. The most frequent users of this symbol are Satanists.
Therefore, one can ask why John Paul II decided to make this extraordinary symbolic innovation without sufficient explanation for Catholics. The Latin saying: In dubio, libertas, loosely translates to: When an authority gives confused orders or teaches confused doctrines, every Catholic is free to follow or think according to his conscience. It seems that this applies to this case. In other words, it can be claimed that this action of John Paul II gives an indirect support to Satanism.
Apparently March 24 is not a date associated with St. Peter's death so it's curious why the pope would sit on such a throne.
http://knowthetruth.com.ph/blog/the-inverted-cross-is-a-christian-symbol/ provides a defence so maybe it's nothing to worry about.
Re. the Bent Cross Crucifix, according to
http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/rc100.htm
Roman Catholic author, Piers Compton, writing in his book, "The Broken Cross: Hidden Hand In the Vatican", Channel Islands, Neville Spearman, 1981, claims, "This Bent Crucifix is "... a sinister symbol, used by Satanists in the sixth century, that had been revived at the time of Vatican Two. This was a bent or broken cross, on which was displayed a repulsive and distorted figure of Christ, which the black magicians and sorcerers of the Middle Ages had made use of to represent the Biblical term 'Mark of the Beast'. Yet, not only Paul VI, but his successors, the two John-Pauls, carried that object and held it up to be revered by crowds, who had not the slightest idea that it stood for anti-Christ."
https://novusordowatch.org/2013/04/francis-brings-back-bent-cross/ discusses the issue further.
http://catholicpunditwannabe.blogsp...e-art-historical-musings-about-bent_5011.html also discusses the issue.
Again, I stress I'm not anti-catholic and it's entirely up to Catholics as to what images they want to present to the world and if you're happy with them, that's fine by me. I'm just a curious bystander and so far none of it is really of any major concern to me. However, I can understand why some are talking about receiving mixed messages.
You have used the word "abomination" quite frequently with reference to God, and now Relevation, and I'm a bit puzzled. Wasn't the Bible with all of it's OT horrors and NT Revelations compiled by the Catholic Church? So why do you regard these things as abominations?
The point you make about not consulting seers, I have always assumed that referred to mystics, occultists, etc.
Didn't some of the OT characters receive messages from God via dreams and visions? I recall a story about someone advising some Pharaoh about diseases, floods, plagues of locusts etc.
Cheers
