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10/05/16

07:34

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Originally posted by bowral ↑

Hi Tonio,
easy,ive presented these answers to trinitarians a number of times on the forum
One more time one hurt

Firstly,
When asking the question,present the whole conversation
Not just the part that suits ones bias or point of view

John 14:16
King James Bible
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you
17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU

Encumbered by humanity,Jesus in his human form could not be in all places at all times.
When he returned to his father after his work here on earth was accepted.
He was able to return here as the comforter,God with us
Heb 4.15
14Therefore, since we have such a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to what we profess.
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin. 16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.…

He because he became us,he understands divinity,being the express image of gods person Heb 1,he could also be our comforter,because he became flesh and dwelt among us,and experienced what it was like to be a human.
He came back in his spirit form,because before he came to this earth,thats what he was before he became flesh.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.John 4.24
Thats why,he said,I WILL COME TO YOU,CHRIST HIMSELF,in another form,his spirit form.

21Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” 22When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. John 20.22

Matt 18:20
King James Bible
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Jesus said in the above verse,i will come to you

Look forward to your reply,id say its another set up again probably,thats usually why you ask me questions.

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Hi Bowral,
It is no set up but clearly the Holy Spirit who witnessed everything that Christ accomplished is with us always but Jesus is only present when 2 or 3 gather in his name

It is written in
1John 5:7
King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Bowral, when Jesus comes to judge the living and the dead who will be the 2 witnesses

Deut 19:15
King James Bible
One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Matt 18:16
King James Bible
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

2Cor 13:1
King James Bible
This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
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