Three can't become one and one can't become three. It's either...

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    Three can't become one and one can't become three. It's either one or three. The reality of God depends on oneness, so the Trinity in its Catholic form is heretical.

    There is a trinity of sorts, God, His outpouring of Grace (Holy Spirit) active in the heart of Jesus and Jesus the perfect mirror reflecting the Will of God upon humankind.

    The Trinity is the Catholic equivalent of the JW 1914 prophecy and declaration.
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    Hi waffle, that would be correct on this side of creation, but God is not of this side, in infinity all will be in all, no division
    Some time ago, again it was in response to wotsup, you wrote this, (below highlighted) I thought it made perfect sense as you are gifted at times of hitting the nail on the head so I kept it.


    It answers your above post as to why we have Jesus and the Trinity

    “it's the means by which a Transcendent, Infinite, Unfathomable Father might become Finite, Fathomable and amongst us WITHOUT having to change His nature.”

    Jesus is the means by which a Transcendent, Infinite, Unfathomable God became Finite, Fathomable and amongst us WITHOUT having to change His nature to reconcile humanity, it makes perfect sense of what the early church also believed, we see this in the first generation of Christian believed.

    Ignatius of Antioch (died 98/117). Bishop of Antioch. He wrote much in defense of Christianity
    “We have also as a Physician the Lord our God Jesus the Christ the only-begotten Son and Word, before time began, but who afterwards became also man, of Mary the virgin. For ‘the Word was made flesh.’ Being incorporeal, He was in the body; being impassible, He was in a passable body; being immortal, He was in a mortal body; being life, He became subject to corruption, that He might free our souls from death and corruption, and heal them, and might restore them to health, when they were diseased with ungodliness and wicked lusts.”


    We also see that there can be no more ancient title of almighty God than that of “Father,” and it is through the Son that He is Father, from this we see that God was always a Father from eternity, even before the incarnation, oneness of God, God is one, but consisting of 3 persons, Father, Son and the Holy Spirit


    God being “all in all” is rooted in the truth of Jesus’ resurrection and the resultant future, when Christ returns and “the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all” (1 Corinthians 15:28).even oneness with creation



    And no, its not a CC creation, its right there in the Gospel, if you read it in the sense it was written, one must remember and take account that much division has entered through the last 2000 years



    The answer is simple: the Trinity is a biblical doctrine, and it was taught before with the apostles.

    Part of the reason that the Trinity doctrine was not “officially” taught until the time of the Council of Nicaea is that Christianity was illegal until shortly before the council. It wasn’t really possible for official Christian groups to meet and discuss doctrine. For the most part, they were fearful of making public pronouncements concerning their faith. As it was, the person of Christ was attacked. When the Church defended the deity of Christ, the doctrine of the Trinity was further defined.


    The early church believed in the Trinity as is evidenced by the quote above, and it wasn’t necessary to really make it official. It wasn’t until errors started to creep in that councils began to meet to discuss the Trinity as well as other doctrines that came under fire.
 
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